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Christians Target Trans Protections


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Tampa, Fla.'s transgender population stands to receive antidiscrimination protections under a measure given preliminary approval by the city council two weeks ago, but now Christian groups are mobilizing to block those new rights.

Groups including the Florida Family Association and the Community Issues Council are urging their members to pack a Thursday night city council meeting where the antidiscrimination measure is expected to be finalized.
 
"This ordinance will give lawful protection to cross dressing males to patronize women's restrooms," the Florida Family Association said in a statement, according to TheTampa Tribune. "And men dressed as women or women who perceive themselves as men can also use men's restrooms."

The proposed changes to Tampa's antidiscrimination measure would prohibit bias against transgender people in housing, employment, and public accommodations. But the Community Issues Council is telling its members that the new law will allow "sexual predators" to use public restrooms.

Recently, Christian groups unsuccessfully attempted to overturn gay and transgender protections in both Kalamazoo, Mich. and Gainesville, Fla.

Read the full story on Tampa here.

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Reader Comments
  • Name: www.yanheeUSA.com
    Date posted: 11/27/2009 3:42:18 PM
    Hometown: California

    Comment:

    It's great to see that some places are making an effort to accommodate trans people. We've helped many to be able to afford their sex-change surgeries. Http://www.yanheeUSA.com

  • Name: Julie-Anne Driver
    Date posted: 11/20/2009 3:05:47 AM
    Hometown: Calgary, Alberta Canada

    Comment:

    Slight correction, I was addressing Tom, not Alex.

  • Name: Julie-Anne Driver
    Date posted: 11/20/2009 3:03:43 AM
    Hometown: Calgary, Alberta Canada

    Comment:

    Alex, I won't address people who don't identify with being male or female here. However, transsexual people are generally pre-op (want the operation but haven't had it yet), post-op (have had the operation) or non-op (don't want it). Being post-op, I really admire non-ops because deciding that what you have works for you, although you decide to present yourself as another gender, takes a lot more courage than I could ever imagine, with having to live with the wrong gender marker forever on all your documents and all. Kate, well, at least we can agree that mistakes happen.

  • Name: Tom
    Date posted: 11/19/2009 8:45:12 AM
    Hometown: Jacksonville, FL

    Comment:

    Alex - While it may not be a federal law against entering the wrong bathroom, many localities do have ordinances that make it ilegal to enter a restroom that is not that of your legal gender. One example is Jacksonville, FL, there are cities that have made exceptions to the ban for transgendered people though. I do have to agree with another poseter though, at least somewhat, that a guy saying he identifies as a woman does not make him a woman. On the other hand if someone is actively in the process of becoming a woman, that is a different story. The trans community over the years has expanded what being trans means. It use to mean that a person wanted to transition to being the opposit sex. These days Trans seems to me anything between the two sexes. I can't and wont even try to understand how someone who identifies as female can want to keeop their penis. This is my problem with the T in LGBT, many people still believe gay men want to be a female.

  • Name: Kate
    Date posted: 11/19/2009 7:25:43 AM
    Hometown: New York

    Comment:

    This issue regards womens rights and trans really comes down to the old habit of men telling women what to do and think. Some man turns up and declares himself a woman, and then aggresively and arrogantly DEMANDS that women accept that he is actually a woman and allow him into their safe womens only places. It is grossly insulting to women to be told by a man what the definition of a woman is, and that if they disagree with his definition of women are like then he, a man, knows better than them. If a person, like the poster below, was born with too little testosterone and did not develop in the correct way then they are more like a hermaphrodite than a man who wants to be a woman. Even if people are born into the wrong bodies then whats done is done. Accidents happen and people have to live with the consequences and make the best of it. I wish I were taller but I'm not so I don't go around demanding that people act as if I were tall when I am not just because I wish that it were so.

  • Name: Davya
    Date posted: 11/19/2009 1:57:43 AM
    Hometown: Wynnewood, PA

    Comment:

    Kate. I was born with a testosterone deficiency, and have always had a female brain. I have been feeling a vagina and boobs I haven't had since puberty and my body's implications have disallowed me proper socialization with other members of my gender. However, I happen to have a penis and my voice is not feminine at all. I have been admitted to therapy several times for self-violence due to Gender Dysphoria. Its comments that yours that make the world a bitter, gendered, and ugly, ugly place to live in. The least I can honestly say is that, since you do not seem to see how privileged you are, someone should glue a big fat, hairy cock on your vagina and cut off your tits and install a microphone in your mouth that makes you sound like a plumber. Then, and only then, might you actually get what its like. And then, even then, I won't be able to forgive you for how self-destructive you have make me feel.

  • Name: Julie-Anne Driver
    Date posted: 11/19/2009 1:28:34 AM
    Hometown: Calgary, Alberta Canada

    Comment:

    Kate, it is true that there is a small difference in brain structure between the sexes. However, transwomen do have female brains, not male brains. Likewise, transmen have male brains. There is scientific literature that documents this. This confirms the fact that trans people are literally trapped in the wrong body. I would continue to comment on the other aspects of your posting (i.e. dismissing the T in LGBT, the myth of transwomen threatening womens' safe spaces, your very limited contact with the trans community, etc.), but I find that it's best that we, the trans community, as well as the vast majority of the LGBT community that welcomes us, dismiss your divisive attitude.

  • Name: Alex
    Date posted: 11/18/2009 11:22:52 PM
    Hometown: Albany

    Comment:

    I wonder if any of these morons actually know that it is not, in fact, against the law to enter the 'wrong' restroom... Not that even the institution of extreme stupidity known as the police know this either. The problem is housing and job discrimination, not bathrooms, assholes. How bout we start firing your stupid asses because you're straight and/or gender conforming and then see how badly you scream for protections?

  • Name: Andrew
    Date posted: 11/18/2009 9:16:24 PM
    Hometown: San Jose

    Comment:

    Good heavens, Kate. Please realize how ignorant you are on this subject. Everything you posit is absolutely the opposite of the truth about gender and transgender people. Seriously. The opposite of the facts. I wouldn't lie to you. And let's all try to stay away from blanket statements. Wow.

  • Name: Kate
    Date posted: 11/18/2009 8:23:58 PM
    Hometown: NewYork

    Comment:

    This whole trans rights things GREATLY hurts women. Men don'tcare about women in their restroom etc, but women care a lot. And so they should. These trans might regard themselves as women but most people do not believe it is possible to change your sex. It's just a personal belief but not a fact. Gender is largely in the brain structure..men have male structured brains that causes them to think in a certain way. these trans still have male brains and women are expected to accept a persperson with a male brain and thinking into their private spaces. Not fair on women at all. Many of these people then say they are lesbians and want to aggresively enter SAFE women only space and they are male brained people. I have met many and they act like men badly imitating how they think women think. It is unpleasant to be around them. Women should not have to acconmodate mans obsesseion at they won expense. It's a womens issue of our ability to keep women only spaces.



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