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Tyler, Olson, and Lawyer Gloria Allred File Suit in Wake of Prop. 8

Robin Tyler and Diane Olson, the first plaintiff couple named in the historic lawsuit that overturned California's ban on gay marriage and the first same-sex couple married in Los Angeles County in June, wasted no time filing a new lawsuit with California’s supreme court Wednesday morning. In announcing their legal action, the couple also said the No on 8 campaign -- specifically Los Angeles–based efforts -- dropped the ball in helping to defeat the measure.


Robin Tyler and Diane Olson, the first plaintiff couple named in the historic lawsuit that overturned California's ban on gay marriage and the first same-sex couple married in Los Angeles County in June, wasted no time filing a new lawsuit with California’s supreme court Wednesday morning.

Though the fate of Prop. 8 -- which would constitutionally ban same-sex marriage in the state of California -- remained uncertain, with 3 million provisional and absentee ballots still uncounted, Yes on 8 claimed victory Wednesday morning. Tyler, Olson, and their Hollywood power attorney Gloria Allred announced at a press conference at Allred’s Wilshire Boulevard office that afternoon that they would file a new lawsuit challenging Prop. 8’s constitutionality.

Despite widespread finger-pointing blaming Prop 8.’s passage on the high turnout of black voters and the financial backing of the Mormon Church, the couple said that the No on 8 campaign -- specifically Los Angeles–based efforts -- dropped the ball, helping the measure to pass.

"A few weeks ago I said, 'If we won it would be despite No on 8, and if we lost it would be because of No on 8,” Tyler said, accusing the campaign of utilizing "checkbook" politics that replaced unified grassroots organizing. She said the campaign kept the faces of gay marriage out of its ads.

While Tyler and Olson had geared up for another public, political battle in the courts even before Election Day came and went, the effect of Prop. 8's showing at the polls was etched on their faces as they spoke.

“The fact that some people would like to undo our ‘I do’ makes me very sad,” Olson said.

Tyler emphasized that LGBT people need to frame the marriage issue as the civil rights issue that it is, calling Prop. 8 unconstitutional for violating California’s equal protection clause.

“This is a civil rights issue,” Tyler said. “It is not about a lifestyle, it is about our lives.”

Faced with the question of whether domestic partnerships that afforded the same benefits as marriage without the word marriage would suffice, Tyler said, “Separate is never equal.”

“We’re not going to drink from the separate water fountain of marriage,” Tyler said.

Allred spoke out about the terminology of civil unions and domestic partnerships versus marriage.

“Marriage is a fundamental right. The m word means something special,” she said, adding that it's because marriage is unique that opponents want to keep it all to themselves.

As the suit makes its way through the California supreme court, Tyler and Olsen will continue their struggle for marriage equality. Tyler told reporters that they would not take Prop. 8’s passage lightly and that they were not going away.

“I love Robin,” Olson said. “We just want our equal rights.” (Tracy Gilchrist, The Advocate)

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Reader Comments
  • Name: Get Informed
    Date posted: 1/15/2009 8:48:00 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    I attended the Los Angeles Town Hall debate last night.I found Gloria Allred to be rattled and emotional and certain of defeat. She was evasive and screwed by her hypocrisy. She summarized the bogoted and flawed position of the No on 8 lawsuits. She was willing to accept the people's decision against polygamy and incest, but held on to hypocritical position about same-sex marriage. It seems that the people got incest and polygamy right, but it suits her to say that they got same-sex marriage wrong. The whole of her hypocrisy was that she claims the lawsuits are for the Right to Marry and not same-sex marriage. she was too cowardly to take on the fight with only same-sex marriage being the issue.

  • Name: Get Informed
    Date posted: 1/15/2009 8:45:00 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    I attended the Los Angeles Town Hall debate last night.I found Gloria Allred to be rattled and emotional and certain of defeat. She was evasive and screwed by her hypocrisy. She summarized the bogoted and flawed position of the No on 8 lawsuits. She was willing to accept the people's decision against polygamy and incest, but held on to hypocritical position about same-sex marriage. It seems that the people got incest and polygamy right, but it suits her to say that they got same-sex marriage wrong. The whole of her hypocrisy was that she claims the lawsuits are for the Right to Marry and not same-sex marriage. she was too cowardly to take on the fight with only same-sex marriage being the issue.

  • Name: Caruso
    Date posted: 11/20/2008 7:37:00 PM
    Hometown: Torrance

    Comment:

    I always thought the GAYS were smart. Boy was I wrong, why would anybody ever want to be married, what a bunch of idiots. Next year we will have a prop number 88. This prop will allow Mothers,sisters,brothers,cousins to marry each other and have children. EQUAL rights for EVERYONE, no MATTER WHAT!!

  • Name: Josh
    Date posted: 11/11/2008 11:58:00 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    [“Marriage is a fundamental right. The m word means something special,” she said, adding that it's because marriage is unique that opponents want to keep it all to themselves.] Interstingly, if marriage were to become a blanket term including homosexuals, it would no longer be anything special; as is apparently the modern view in Europe where it's been legal for some time.

  • Name: Kirk Rader
    Date posted: 11/8/2008 8:48:00 AM
    Hometown: Reno, NV

    Comment:

    Prop 8 should be ruled a revision rather than an amendment because, otherwise, the equal protection clause has no force whatsoever. The point of a constitution is to limit the majority's ability to infringe on the rights of the minority. Allowing such infringement through a simple majority vote nullifies the purpose of the constitution as a whole. Unfortunately, when civil rights collide with political reality, guess which wins? The CA supreme court has stuck its neck out for us once. They are unlikely to do so again. It is up to the legislature and the people of CA to undo this outrage. It is up to us to encourage them to do so through vigorous grassroots organizing. The rallies and marches are just a small start: do not let the energy and momentum die after a few cathartic demonstrations!

  • Name: T
    Date posted: 11/7/2008 5:56:00 PM
    Hometown: Orange County, CA

    Comment:

    I have a hard time understanding "Equal Rights" when LGBT folks are treated differently on any issue. A solution is to treat everyone equally as an individual, Black, White, Latino, Asian, Straight, Gay, Old, Young, Male, Female, Catholic, Jewish, LDS, whatever - It would eliminate all inequalities like joint taxes, capital gains exemptions, deductions, property, Survivor Benefits, etc. There would be no "superior benefit" to a "married" person as everyone would be treated equally. No advantage for the millions of Americans already "married" as Marriage, in effect, would be abolished. It sort of like solving the issue of Social Security or Health Care - if we put Elected Officials on Social Security and Private Health Ins. it would be solved within days! Let's take away all of the benefits that go along with marriage equally of ALL Americans that might just solve it in a reverse sort of way. Sadly, T OC, CA

  • Name: Adam Michael Kratt
    Date posted: 11/6/2008 3:13:00 PM
    Hometown: Pasadena

    Comment:

    We need to fight back. 1. write a letter to the IRS complaining about the Mormon Church participating in political activism in violation of their IRS tax exempt status. 2. Boycott companies and organizations that supported, donated to or endorsed Prop 8 (pink money) 3. work to make marriage a religious not civilly recognized institution. force heterosexuals to get domestic partners. 4. if those same sex couples who are married in california's marriages become unrecognized, then you need to sue for your marriage fees back.

  • Name: Craig
    Date posted: 11/6/2008 2:20:00 PM
    Hometown: IL

    Comment:

    We are not advocating for the legal overturning of the rights of churches to not "officially" support gay marriage. Trust, me, if you don't want me and my husband to be a part of your church, we don't share enough values for me to want to belong to that church. But that's not it. No "church-only" marriage confers legal rights. It is the state that confers the legal rights. The state confers no godly blessing. Only the churches (however they are structured) can do that. No one is asking that churches be required to accept us and marry us, only that we have the same legal rights to enter a civil legal contract, which shares the name of marriage with a religious sacrament. But that's a logic argument, and the issue is emotional to those who don't interact with us. Help change emotional minds. Be visible. be part of your community. Be out at work. Be a good neighbor. Be a good example.

  • Name: Michael Buchanan
    Date posted: 11/6/2008 6:23:00 AM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    If we continue to pin our hopes on vocal Hollywood actors, we will never win equality. Advocate, please start doing your part to give the gay rights movement back to gays. Enough with the celebrity interviews and cover stories. They are just exploiting our community for their own fame and fortune. And you are helping them do it.

  • Name: JEN
    Date posted: 11/6/2008 2:20:00 AM
    Hometown: NASHVILLE

    Comment:

    I KNEW TWO LADYS WHO HAD BEENTOGETHER 45 YRS THEY LOVED EACH OTHER VERY MUCH FOR ALL THOSE YRS UP UNTILL THE VERY LAST DAY TOGETHER WHEN BRIT PASSED AWAY PEGGY WAS TO GET THE HOUSE THEY SHARED BUT TWO OF BRITS LONG LOST FAMILY MEMBERS CAME AND TOOK IT FROM HER SAYING UNGLY THINGS ABOUT HER AND HOW SHE HAD NO RIGHTS TO ANY THING I DONT KNOW HOW EVERY THING WENT DOWN BUT PEGGY ENDED UP IN A NURSING HOME TO LIVE OUT THE REST OF HER DAYS ! WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN HER HOME! IT WAS HER HOME ! BUT DUE TO THE LAWS THE WAY THEY ARE I GUESS SHE HAD NO RIGHTS ! AND THATS A SIN !! I AM FOR SAME SEX MARRAGE! I WANT TO SEE ALL THE BRITS AND PEGGYS HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AS ANYONE ELSE ,THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER GONE THROUGH THAT! WE ARE COMING IN TO 2009 FOR GODS SAKE.WE SHOULD BE PASSED THIS BY NOW! IF NOT NOW SOON I HOPE ! PASS SAME SEX MARRIAGE !



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