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Labor of Love

Thomas Beatie gives The Advocate a first-person account of how it feels to be pregnant and carrying a child for his wife and himself.
From The Advocate March 26, 2008
Labor of Love

To our neighbors, my wife, Nancy, and I don’t appear in the least unusual. To those in the quiet Oregon community where we live, we are viewed just as we are -- a happy couple deeply in love. Our desire to work hard, buy our first home, and start a family was nothing out of the ordinary. That is, until we decided that I would carry our child.

I am transgender, legally male, and legally married to Nancy. Unlike those in same-sex marriages, domestic partnerships, or civil unions, Nancy and I are afforded the more than 1,100 federal rights of marriage. Sterilization is not a requirement for sex reassignment, so I decided to have chest reconstruction and testosterone therapy but kept my reproductive rights. Wanting to have a biological child is neither a male nor female desire, but a human desire.

Ten years ago, when Nancy and I became a couple, the idea of us having a child was more dream than plan. I always wanted to have children. However, due to severe endometriosis 20 years ago, Nancy had to undergo a hysterectomy and is unable to carry a child. But after the success of our custom screen-printing business and a move from Hawaii to the Pacific Northwest two years ago, the timing finally seemed right. I stopped taking my bimonthly testosterone injections. It had been roughly eight years since I had my last menstrual cycle, so this wasn’t a decision that I took lightly. My body regulated itself after about four months, and I didn’t have to take any exogenous estrogen, progesterone, or fertility drugs to aid my pregnancy.

Our situation sparks legal, political, and social unknowns. We have only begun experiencing opposition from people who are upset by our situation. Doctors have discriminated against us, turning us away due to their religious beliefs. Health care professionals have refused to call me by a male pronoun or recognize Nancy as my wife. Receptionists have laughed at us. Friends and family have been unsupportive; most of Nancy’s family doesn’t even know I’m transgender.

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  • Name: F Moran
    Date posted: 2008-12-29 6:21 PM
    Hometown: Waterford, Ireland

    Comment:

    I have just watched your documentary on Channell 4 tv, from Ireland. At first i wasnt so sure, but I understand your desire to have a child. You both are in a loving relationship, and now have a daughter. Congratulations, the world is changing & you brought life into it Im happy for you both.


  • Name: NASWAS
    Date posted: 2008-12-26 2:28 PM
    Hometown: WORCESTER

    Comment:

    Hell Thomas, I saw your story and i would like to say that it's noboby's business what you do, if you want to go ahead and have 10 babies then that is your business. What is the difference between a gay couple adopting and you having a baby? People need to worry about starving, suffering and abused children, not about you having a healthy baby that you and your wife obviously love and will take good care of. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!


  • Name: Suzy
    Date posted: 2008-12-24 8:07 PM
    Hometown: Dayton

    Comment:

    I wish Thomas and his wife and daughter a Merry first Christmas together as a family of three and good luck with baby number two!


  • Name: Odette
    Date posted: 2008-12-21 10:21 PM
    Hometown: London

    Comment:

    Saw your documentary on Channel 4 here in the UK about Susan's birth! I'd like to say congrats to you both! Susan is a BEAUTIFUL little girl, and your next shall be as stunning! I have to say, its incredible how well you both seem to be coping with all the media and the fear of the unknown from so many in the world. In the documentary you said you hope Susan sees the uniqueness of your family as a blessing rather than a 'disability', there is nothing that could ever cause either of your children to see their family as nothing short of phenomenal! People say, the arrival of a child is a blessing, in your case this is true, but the ones who are truly blessed are your children! They have been brought into the world by the most caring, understanding, and loving parents to ever walk this earth! And they will see it themselves from a very early age! Once again, congrats to you both! And I wish your family all the happiness in the world! With fondest wishes and kindest regards, Odette x


  • Name: alie
    Date posted: 2008-12-20 7:18 PM
    Hometown: fernley

    Comment:

    i was just reading about you i think that is so cool i am on my second child and i always say to my husband i wish you colud go through what i do and have a baby or at least carry it tell the baby is ready to come but i know some people think this is just wrong but i think it is the most beautiful thing in the worldand to be the one carrying the baby for 9 months is a bond and a love so strong its crazy but i know i love it and no one can make you feel diff,.so dont worry about what people say and live your life and take care of your family and must i say you have a grate body to carry a babby you look really good i cant wait to see a pic of your family after


  • Name: fiorella
    Date posted: 2008-12-19 1:01 PM
    Hometown: London

    Comment:

    I've just watched the pregnant man documentry, and can i just say i was in awe of this amazing couple. they are so inspirational. The only thing wrong with this situation is that this beautiful baby girl is being born into a world with narrow minded people full of hate. how could people be so cruel. I'm glad that baby nancy has such a wonderful loving family around her.


  • Name: Sophie
    Date posted: 2008-12-12 5:15 AM
    Hometown: Yeovil, Somerset, England.

    Comment:

    I watched your Documentary last night, I think you are both inspirational. Your Life is a huge inspiration to other people who want to go through a sex change etc. I think you and Nancy are an adorable couple, its so nice to see a couple so in love. It makes me sick to see people abusing you, what is there problem? Its ridiculous, its your life you can do what you like as long as your happy. Your daughter is absolutly GORGEOUS! Congratulations,And Another further Congratulations on your second pregnancy! (: I hope that you continue to be so happy and Goodluck with your pregnancy. x


  • Name: Tanya Leanne
    Date posted: 2008-12-11 6:14 PM
    Hometown: Uk

    Comment:

    Congratulations To You Both Your Daughter Is Gorgeous , Just finished watching uks cutting edge documentary, though it was amazing :) people really need to give you a brake i think its gr8 what you done and should not have all the bad things said about you at all , surpisely im only 15 and just adore kids and will do anything to have my own at some stage everyone deserves to have there own biological child even You Just Wished people out there could get over themselfs and accpet it cos at the end of the day its about haveing a family nothing else , not the way it happend or weather the mother or the father carried the baby. i think your both awsome and wish you all the best for the future - Tanya Leanne


  • Name: Tanya Leanne
    Date posted: 2008-12-11 6:10 PM
    Hometown: Uk

    Comment:

    Congratulations To You Both Your Daughter Is Gorgeous , Just finished watching uks cutting edge documentary, though it was amazing :) people really need to give you a brake i think its gr8 what you done and should not have all the bad things said about you at all , surpisely im only 15 and just adore kids and will do anything to have my own at some stage everyone deserves to have there own biological child even You Just Wished people out there could get over themselfs and accpet it cos at the end of the day its about haveing a family nothing else , not the way it happend or weather the mother or the father carried the baby. i think your both awsome and wish you all the best for the future - Tanya Leanne


  • Name: Helen Lee
    Date posted: 2008-12-11 5:33 PM
    Hometown: luton UK

    Comment:

    Hi, have just viewed the documentary shown in the UK on channel 4. First let me say congrats to You and Your wife on the birth of your daughter and congrats on the expected addition. Secondly, thank you for having the courage to be so open about what is and has happened to your family. I am sorry so many of the supposedly moral up standing citizens of both the usa and other places have seen fit to disparage and abuse you and your wife. When so many children are left to die and suffer in so called "normal" hetrosexual families, that such loving parents should want to raise children should be seen as a blessing, not a curse. I wish you and yours the best of health, the best of love and the best of life. Respectfully Helen


  • Name: Katrina
    Date posted: 2008-12-08 10:26 PM
    Hometown: Schenectady

    Comment:

    I think that you & your family are very lucky because there are a lot of families that keep trying or the woman can carry for some reason & they would do what ever it takes to have a little one of there own. So who is anyone to say that your family doesnt have that same right. Good luck & congrats. on your little girl. maybe by the time she is old enough to understand the world may have a diffrent out look on all that you & your wife did to start your own family.


  • Name: felicia
    Date posted: 2008-12-02 12:15 PM
    Hometown: brownsville,tx

    Comment:

    congradulations thomas, i think it is wonderful and i think you are unique.. dont listen to what people say about you're pragnancy. i am 4 months pregnant rite now, my parents didnt approve. but i learned to not listen to what anybody says because im so excited for this baby and nobody can make me feel any diffrent about this little bundle of joy growing inside of me.. when people talks about you and you're family, just remember to think of how happy you're wife must be for you doing this for her! theres always people who talks about other people.. everyone gets talked about sometimes.. people just has to learn to not listen to other's bullshit! all the best of luck to you and you're family! `Felicia.


  • Name: Lana
    Date posted: 2008-11-28 4:16 AM
    Hometown: vancouver

    Comment:

    I just want to say congrats to the happy couple. I am so sorry and truly embarrased by our human kind. What truly remarkable people and such a loving couple. If people don`t get that, its their shit. Sorry just so upset for you guys, hope this msg makes it to you. I am your neighbor in Vancouver and have been married for five yrs, no children, we cannot get pregnant. I so hope you guys get every happiness and wish and desire you deserve. Tom you never had a chance, your little girl is so lucky. My husband also lost his Mother young , commited suicide when he was 12, no one will ever get that, not even me. I wish for your family all the love in the world and you will make it. You already did. Love Lana


  • Name: Lynn Tachick
    Date posted: 2008-11-26 8:32 PM
    Hometown: Waukesha, WI

    Comment:

    Thomas, it is the day before Thanksgiving and I ironically have just finished reading page 64 of your book, Labor of Love. On page 64, you express the heart wrenching account or your mother's death...the day before Thanksgiving. Please know that I am thinking of you as you miss her today, yesterday, tomorrow, and always.


  • Name: Crystal k
    Date posted: 2008-11-24 3:50 PM
    Hometown: Houston

    Comment:

    Thomas, Last saturday i watched you and your wifes story on the 'discovery' channel. As i listened to ya'lls words and the angry messages you two have recieved, it broke my heart. I think the choices you have made were brave, and shows how strong you are. To go and pursue what you felt you really were physically, evn at the expense of losing your family was no only brave, it was honorable. I would also like to congradulate you on your beautiful baby girl and your second pregnancy. I look into your eyes, and saw nothing but sincere kindness. That rare to see among people now days. Plus i rarely see that in a man. Again congrats and good luck with your busy, and soon to be even more, hectic life. Everytime you read an angry message, just remember that there is always someone else, like me, out there supporting you two.


  • Name: Melinda
    Date posted: 2008-11-24 1:52 AM
    Hometown: Grand Island

    Comment:

    Thomas. I am just now seeing your story on Discovery Health channel and I am so very happy for you and your wife. My family is very close-minded, but I am grateful for friends who have opened my mind to people who are bi-sexual and I believe that sex has no matter in love. I believe that if you love someone, it doesn't matter if you are of opposite sex, or same sex. Love knows no boundries. I feel for people that are so close-minded to you and your situation, and to others of similar situations. I hope that other people in the world who are trans-gender like you and are struggling with haters can find help. I support you and your wife and I wish you the best in life! Congratulations, Elmo, Nebraska


  • Name: Brittany
    Date posted: 2008-11-22 12:07 PM
    Hometown: Chaska, MN

    Comment:

    Just saw your story on Discovery Health, Thomas & Nancy. I think what everyone in the world seems to be missing here is exactly what you pointed out: wanting a biological child is not a male need or a female need, but a HUMAN need. When people adopt, they don't ask where it came from--in fact, many times nobody really knows the personal history of the biological parents. It is not only nobody's business how a couple chooses to have a baby, but it is deplorable to tell them their decisions are "wrong." How is it that so many people who claim to be so strong of moral character can be bible-thumping pro-lifers and somehow wish against you having a healthy baby girl? That's not what I would call someone who really knows their God-- that's someone who can't face the fact that gender is a social construct and DOESN'T change the wonderful people we are--and the wonderful person and loving FATHER you are, Thomas. Bless you!


  • Name: Claire
    Date posted: 2008-11-22 11:25 AM
    Hometown: Grovetown

    Comment:

    I am so happy for you. I think it is a brave thing to have a baby, especially when there are a lot of people out there who want to hurt you or call you names. I admire you and i hope that your beautiful baby girl grows up happy and healthy. Sincerely, Claire


  • Name: Claire
    Date posted: 2008-11-22 11:22 AM
    Hometown: Grovetown, GA

    Comment:

    I am so happy for you. I think it is a brave thing to have a baby, especially when there are a lot of people out there who want to hurt you or call you names. I admire you and i hope that your beautiful baby girl grows up happy and healthy. Sincerely, Claire


  • Name: ragavendra
    Date posted: 2008-11-21 1:19 PM
    Hometown: california

    Comment:

    I think you do not want to care what other think about you ,rather to decide what you need. ---- ragavendra


  • Name: blade
    Date posted: 2008-11-21 12:52 AM
    Hometown: between dreams and reality

    Comment:

    Hey, I saw your special and wanted to say congratulations on your baby girl and on the second one on the way. You and Nancy have something really special, especially if you are doing this for her and yourself. Take care of yourself, Blessed be.


  • Name: Kasey
    Date posted: 2008-11-20 5:16 AM
    Hometown: Oceanside

    Comment:

    Congratulations Thomas and Nancy!!! I am watching the show about your new arrival ( a little late) and as a 7 month pregnant, and mother of a two year old little girl, I'm very happy for your family. Love is what makes a family, commitment and compasion for one another is what makes a family work. Best of luck to you!


  • Name: Linda
    Date posted: 2008-11-20 1:26 AM
    Hometown: Minneapolis

    Comment:

    I think what these people are doing is wrong. I wish everyone would STOP calling her a man, she's a WOMAN. Just because you have facial hair and no breasts, that doesn't make you a man, you still have the female internal organs so that makes you a FEMALE. I think the true wife should own up to the fact that she is a lesbian and I think they're marriage should be void. I feel sorry for the kids they are bringing into this world because they will be screwed up and confused. This couple and the whole situation is disgusting!!!!


  • Name: rae
    Date posted: 2008-11-19 10:32 PM
    Hometown: mississippi

    Comment:

    Congratulations, Thomas & Nancy. I'm watching your show on Discovery Health and am appalled at how evil people can be. I hope your little girl is healthy and well. Everyone has the freedom to choose how they want to live their life and you should have the same respect as anyone else.


  • Name: Evie Gibbs
    Date posted: 2008-11-19 10:25 PM
    Hometown: Sarasota FL

    Comment:

    You are an inspiration. I am so sorry you are getting so much hate over this! It has me in tears. I am so happy for you and your wife. Congratulations on pregnancy #2! you and your wonderful family are in my thoughts and prayer.


  • Name: cindi
    Date posted: 2008-11-19 6:02 PM
    Hometown: portland

    Comment:

    I love you so much thomas for being so brave and not caring what society thinks. You and your wife have made a wonderful baby regardless how it was made. You are truly inspartaional to many people. Most men beleive it or not would most likely trade places with you at any moment. This is most likely why most of them are being so cruel and saying that your baby does not belong on this earth which is not the case. You and your wife keep living your lives and hold you head up high and dont give a second thought to all the negative comments that are being produced throught the world.


  • Name: Myles
    Date posted: 2008-11-19 9:11 AM
    Hometown: Hohenwald

    Comment:

    Thomas is one of the Beautiful Ones. Love has found its way to Thomas and he is sharing it. May all the Higher Powers Smile on Thomas and his family. Always remember, "people" with little intelligence and smaller hearts always seem to use God as their reason to show their ignorance & hatred. It's the Beautiful Ones that give the World Hope & remind us that Love is still here all around us. Peace & Love to Thomas & Family Myles


  • Name: Ashley Stultz
    Date posted: 2008-11-19 12:28 AM
    Hometown: Eden, NC

    Comment:

    I think that anyone out here should just let this family be what they want to be. They just want to be a family like anyone else out here they just went about it different. If "she" feels better as a "he" then so be it. He's right when he says its a human right to reproduce. Now you men out there tell me that if you were able to you wouldnt carry your child if the love of your life couldnt carry? your wife, fiance, girlfriend? Im a mother of one and yes me and my fiance conceived the "usual" way...but when he feels that hes better as a he...dont discriminate because of the way he does things...it doesnt really matter that much because hes a good father and a great surrogate as he carried the first child and i hope everything goes well with the second child on the way


  • Name: Jessica
    Date posted: 2008-11-18 9:33 PM
    Hometown: Hammond

    Comment:

    I had made a comment about this story and the fact that Thomas is pregnant again on another website and as I am writing this I am watching the premier of their story on the discovery health channel Pregnant Man! And with my previous comment on that other site I feel awful knowing what I know now that Thomas' family totally turned against him cause she felt better as a man. Everyone does deserve happiness and Thomas and Nancy certinly have been dealing with a lot of shit from people. I mean for real I am very much against even the thought of wishing someone would abort a pregnancy or miscarry. But watching this show right now Thomas was saying that people kept telling I'm that they wish he would miscarry. That's an awful thing to say!


  • Name: Nicolle
    Date posted: 2008-11-18 9:19 PM
    Hometown: Kansas

    Comment:

    I think that you guys bringing this baby into the world is wonderful. The negative things that people say are stupid. My sister is a lesbian and she is dealing with trying to get our famliy to support her in her wedding next year, I support her one hundred percent, I support you and your wife one hudered percent your baby girl will be loved more then any baby. I wish you luck with the new life that you brought into the world. THANK YOU!!!


  • Name: Richard
    Date posted: 2008-11-18 12:08 PM
    Hometown: Sacramento

    Comment:

    Also saw the interview on 20/20 and the ones on Oprah and all I can say is KUDOS to you both for your courage and openness. People of this world just don't like grey. They want black and white because that's much easier to understand and accept. I obviously am not God but if I were to guess why he/she made us different (I'm gay) it would be to teach tolerance, acceptance and love for all, not just the "normal majority". When we as a people can stop putting on labels and seeing each other as fellow human beings and children of God, then we will find that Garden of Eden again. Good luck to you both!!


  • Name: Lulu
    Date posted: 2008-11-17 12:59 PM
    Hometown: New Smyrna Beach, FL

    Comment:

    I was also looking for a contact/webpage/blog for the Beatie Family but I could not find anything. I wanted to say that I was so sad to hear the hateful calls they get, how can people be so mean, how can people be so full of hate to even call a child monster? what a sad person you must be. I can only see in Thomas, Nancy & baby Susan a wonderful family filled with love & care for each other, I teach my kids to love & respect all because God created us all equal. Your story of the seahorse was so cute, I really had tears in my eyes through the entire interview, you are all so brave, BE PROUD, BE HAPPY! you all deserve it


  • Name: Kate
    Date posted: 2008-11-17 11:03 AM
    Hometown: DeSoto, Tx

    Comment:

    Thomas and Nancy, Thomas & Nancy, I was raised in a "straight" family where my parents fought and my dad was unfaithful for years. They finally resolved the ugly issues but I still have scares from those years. So, I don't understand why people want to judge you and Nancy for wanting to have a family and raise children in a positive and happy home with two parents who love each other dearly. Ignore the negative comments, especially the comments about what God wants regarding you giving birth. I'm a Christian and it's not our place to tell another individual what God wants....God has told us not to JUDGE! Susan is a beautiful baby and she looks like her daddy with those pretty eyes! I hope everything goes well with your 2nd pregnancy. Take care and I wish you and Nancy years of happiness and joy. Children are a blessing from God, regardless of how they arrive! Kate


  • Name: Nichole
    Date posted: 2008-11-16 6:39 PM
    Hometown: RockVill

    Comment:

    I believe there children will be fine. There children will probably be more loved then yours will buy your whole family.


  • Name: Chandler
    Date posted: 2008-11-16 6:02 PM
    Hometown: Austin

    Comment:

    Hello Thomas I have been terribly sick for three years I am fourteen. I am inspired my you. please email me at SG_rock13@hotmail.com.


  • Name: cory
    Date posted: 2008-11-16 1:44 PM
    Hometown: parsberg

    Comment:

    i don't know if the family will read this or not. but i believe that there is absolutely nothing wrong with what they did. they are happy and their children are going to be happy, the thing that will make them unhappy is all of the people in the world who are not open minded enough to accept what they have done. they have done nothing wrong, and honestly why do you judge them, you have no right. what they did was their personal decision to make, everybody should respect that.


  • Name: Linus T.
    Date posted: 2008-11-16 12:26 PM
    Hometown: Toronto

    Comment:

    "This is COMPLETELY and TOTALLY wrong.....going totally against God's will. Something very bad will come of this situation. I just feel so bad for the child." And you know this how? Seriously. What makes you think that God didn't want this and didn't put this into Thomas' life destiny? Do you seriously think that God makes mistakes? Please remember that the Path lead out for you isn't the same Path that God lays out for others. Be respectful of the Paths He's put forth for others. I think it's against God's will to challenge what God has decided as a Path for others.


  • Name: Sue
    Date posted: 2008-11-16 8:58 AM
    Hometown: Rainelle

    Comment:

    This is COMPLETELY and TOTALLY wrong.....going totally against God's will. Something very bad will come of this situation. I just feel so bad for the child.


  • Name: Brandy M
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 7:15 PM
    Hometown: Fresno Ca

    Comment:

    i just watchd a show i dnt kn ow the name of it but i seen that the guy was kinda making fun of what your doing! i think it is crazy but its a cool thing! i dnt see the problem with it people are jst mad bcuz they cnt do the same! a baby is a beautiful form of life and no one should ever stand in the way if a couple want a baby! screw whoever turnd their heads at you and your family! i wish you and yours the best and hope your daughter is a very heathly little girl!!! congratualations!!!


  • Name: Sherry Dybas
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 3:05 PM
    Hometown: Wheaton, IL

    Comment:

    Thomas, may God bless you and your beautiful family. I am so happy for you, I wish there were words appropriate to express this to you. I hope you and your growing family are forever happy and healthy. I'm sorry for all of the ignorance that has found its way to you. You know you deserve none of it. But God is trying to teach society a lesson through you and your amazing strength. He is trying to tell society that their ignorance will be the death of them. I am watching your taped interview with BW as I type, and I truly hope you read this and know that there's nothing wrong with you at all. Society has gone wrong. Keep following your heart and soul. You are in my thoughts and prayers. Love, Sherry


  • Name: jennifer cluff
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 2:11 PM
    Hometown: manchester, nh

    Comment:

    the reason I am jealous is sadly I am not fertile...we don't know why. You used a pet syringe! That just takes the cake...and twice! I can laugh and say well, dang, a man is more fertile than me!!! I have many times been envious of transgenders when they look better than me! If I could have my husband carry our child using his intact and fertile organs, you bet I would do it. I wish I could send you a card or something to add to that well wisher box...congratulations to the both of you!!!!


  • Name: Tina
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 2:08 PM
    Hometown: Alberta, Canada

    Comment:

    I watched Barbara Walters interview of Thomas and Nancy Beatie and was amazed by their candid bravery. I was annoyed with BW's hang ups and judmental snickety opinions on both programs. As an interviewer the job is to ask all questions without judgement. All I saw in this family was love, compassion, and a great sense of a clear future. The small minded, hypocritical, and judgmental should climb back under a rock. Human Rights are for everyone. No matter what race, religion, sexual preference or gender. Freedom and Justice for all !!! Ring any bells??? At a time in your countries proudest moment in history, electing Barack Obama as President and least proudest moment revoking rights to citizens within hours of eachother. Change is now. I thank Thomas and Nancy for sharing their story, being who they are and allowing others to do the same. They have many supporters. I am proudly one of them.


  • Name: jennifer cluff
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 2:00 PM
    Hometown: manchester, nh

    Comment:

    I also want to say that the reason I am jealous is that my hubby and I have tried to conceive and have failed. You used a pet syringe!!! I can laugh and say dang a man is more fertile than me...how ironic!!! Susan is lucky to have such loving and great parents and you two are so well rounded...for your wife...DNA does not make one a mommy and daddy, so all the people telling you that "biologically" you are not the mother, tell them to jump off a cliff!!!


  • Name: Jennifer Cluff
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 1:57 PM
    Hometown: Manchester, NH

    Comment:

    Last night I watched the Barbara Walters special and I wanted to so much find you and your wife and email you...I AM SO JEALOUS!!!! You guys don't need to listen to what the public tells you. First off, there are so many women out there who can't conceive and if their husband like you could carry the child, they would jump at the opportunity. You only did what was natural in your hearts. There are so many families out there who have children the conventional way and guess what? They suck at parenting. They should have never ever become parents. And, the fact that Susan has the both of you, well rounded stable individuals, she is so much luckier than many other children born to the conventional family.


  • Name: Linda
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 9:37 AM
    Hometown: West Palm Beach

    Comment:

    A family is what you make it. It doesn't have requirements. You both look so happy on the Barbara Walters show, and you can see the love you have for your child. Don't forget that biological is not the only family. Congratulations to you both on your new pregnancy!


  • Name: Andrea O.
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 2:35 AM
    Hometown: ontario/upland ca.

    Comment:

    continued comment....3rd piece. p.s. just a little note to any of you who think its wrong what this family is doing, it wasnt to long ago when race, religion, ethnicity, gender would play a role in what people thought was right and wrong with the world and i guess in some ways it still is but we live in a place now whereits ok to follow what ever religion you choose and marry who you wish, and live where you want and so forth, women can vote and blacks and asians and etc can live freely and jews can mary catholics and you can have more than one religion and all that good stuff. its called free will and god gave that to us all so embrace it and let others enjoy it as well. everyone is entitiled to their opinions and their happiness. but if you have nothing nice to say or share than dont bring everyone else down just because you cant be happy yourself. peace out and godbless you all.


  • Name: Andrea O.
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 2:33 AM
    Hometown: ontario/upland ca.

    Comment:

    coninued comment..... God made Thomas very special he was able to ba a man and give birth to his daughter. i wish all men could feel the joy of being pregnant, it sucks that women only get that feeling, and i know so many men , straight, gay, transgendered who would love the chance to have that feeling. To give birth to a child is a blessing from god and thomas is lucky enough to do that, he's giving his wife a wonderful gift and himself. Thomas and nancy you should be so proud, i know i am for you. i wish you both and your family the best of luck and many more blessings . god bless you all.


  • Name: Andrea O.
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 2:31 AM
    Hometown: ontario/upland ca.

    Comment:

    I think that Thomas and Nancy are the bravest people, i love that they share with the world thire own love and beautiful family. Im a women, i was born a women and still a women. Im married to a man and we have three beautiful boys and im so ordinary to some people but i too have a great love for my family and i too wish to share it with the world like thomas and nancy; but its thire story and love that really makes a difference, they give hope to those who are just like them, they are telling the world that " hey we are a family and we do love and we are happy, and you can be too". No one has the right to make them feel ashamed, God made us all very special and it would be ashame if he made us all the same.


  • Name: Anabel
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 1:34 AM
    Hometown: Berkeley, CA

    Comment:

    I cannot find any personal contact for you on-line but I hope that you can read this post. I am a heterosexual female (like it matters what our labels are) and I just wanted to say that you and your wife are wonderful. Please keep sharing your story and I hope someday gender, race, class, sexuality, and everything else won't matter. We love a person - not a gender, race, class, or sexuality! It is so sad to see people who are terribly negative toward a person for a trait that is relatively meaningless. Congratulations on your spot with Baba Wawa! We in the Gender and Women's Studies Department at UC Berkeley support you and loved hearing about your family last Spring in our health class.


  • Name: JAIME
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 1:34 AM
    Hometown: LOS ANGELES CA

    Comment:

    I ADMIRE THIS FAMILY SO MUCH!! I THINK THAT THEY DID A WONDERFUL THING AND I WISH THEM ALL TH3 BEST AND I HOPE THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING AND I HOPE THAT THEY JUST AS MUCH JOY WITH BABY #2 AS THEY DID WITH SUSAN.....


  • Name: Deborah Kaye Ross-Cole
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 12:19 AM
    Hometown: Auburn ME

    Comment:

    I just watched Barbara Walters & all I can say is, I wish every person on earth could share the intensity of love that is so apparent between the two of you!!! the fact that Nancy can nurse little Susan speaks volumes,in what God says is right & wrong. I just really love how so called christians take the bible and make it fit their idea of what God means..Baby Susan is lucky to have you as parents!!! There are so many children born the so called "normal" way that live lives pulled out of horror stories ie... little Nixmary Brown that died at the hands of her mother & stepfather in NY in 2006!!!!! So Tom & Nancy hold your heads high and love each other and screw what anyone says against you!!!! They are just jealous of the love you share!!! Good luck with your pregnancy there are alot of people in your corner!!!!


  • Name: Amber
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 12:16 AM
    Hometown: Scottsdale, AZ

    Comment:

    I am not reading prior comments beacause I can not believe the horrible things that people have said about this family. As a new mother of a 5 month old my heart goes out to these parents. I understand the love that you have for your child and can not imagine hearing such horrible things about myself or my husband as parents. I can see the love that they have for their child beaming from every pore on their bodies. Most children in the world can only dream of such love. So many children are mentally, physiacally, and sexually abused. These children will be loved and adored and taught to be strong and stand for your family. I commend their courage and wish them all the happieness in the world. May god bless their beautiful family and the love that is shared between them. Many children in the world could only DREAM of being so lucky!


  • Name: Amber
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 12:14 AM
    Hometown: Scottsdale, AZ

    Comment:

    I am not reading prior comments beacause I can not believe the horrible things that people have said about this family. As a new mother of a 5 month old my heart goes out to these parents. I understand the love that you have for your child and can not imagine hearing such horrible things about myself or my husband as parents. I can see the love that they have for their child beaming from every pore on their bodies. Most children in the world can only dream of such love. So many children are mentally, physiacally, and sexually abused. These children will be loved and adored and taught to be strong and stand for your family. I commend their courage and wish them all the happieness in the world. May god bless their beautiful family and the love that is shared between them. Many children in the world could only DREAM of being so lucky!


  • Name: H
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 12:14 AM
    Hometown: Utah

    Comment:

    I dont see a problem with this situation they have put themselves into. Everyone is intitled to love someone and have a baby if they want to. I give props to them for coming out and telling their story. He is pregnant again and I am proud and excited for them. That little girl they had is soo cute and adorable. I see nothing wrong with this. His wife couldnt have a baby and so he did it for there family-I would also do anything for my family if I had to.


  • Name: Bill
    Date posted: 2008-11-14 11:30 PM
    Hometown: Greenacres

    Comment:

    SSR-Thomas and his wife aren't treating you like an idiot. He admits he was born female, but lives as a man. Your comment about nod judging books by covers is hilarious. Not judging a book by its cover, but by the inside indicates looking at he HEART and MIND. But for your narrow-minded sake, lets do some math. His sex organs encompass less than 1/3 the volume of his body that his brain and heart do....if he is a man in his heart and mind, then I would greet him as a man. Just because he exercised his right to father a child using female reproductive organs he has doesn't mean he's less a man. He shows more bravery than 99% of the men I know!


  • Name: Bill
    Date posted: 2008-11-14 11:24 PM
    Hometown: Greenacres, FL

    Comment:

    I see a lot of comments about what Thomas "is" (male/female). I am a straight man, and I feel that people are totally missing the point. This is about the BEAUTY of a "non-traditional" family bringing a life into the world! Melanie, you should be ashamed of yourself. Being a trans individual, you should understand his feelings of who he is inside. Why should Thomas and his wife have to run from the press and all they know to have a happy life with their child (soon to be children)? Just because you may be embarrassed of your "self" doesn't mean that someone else should have to be.


  • Name: charity
    Date posted: 2008-11-14 11:12 PM
    Hometown: md

    Comment:

    and still watching the 20/20 show i see that Nancy is breastfeeding that is so awesome she was lactating i also breastfeed my son and i did my oldest 10 yrs ago and it is a undescribable bond best for the baby and blessing for your new one too


  • Name: Charity
    Date posted: 2008-11-14 11:00 PM
    Hometown: Maryland

    Comment:

    I used to think it was just a strange thing that people were choosing to be transgender and growing up christian it says in the bible man and women but to find out a few yrs ago my aunt was born both and who knew what to do yrs ago my grandmother had her have the operation with no ones knowlege and all her life she felt different like she wasnt a girl but looking in the mirror seeing a girl how would it feel to be trapped in a body not feeling you belonged and to watch the 20/20 special to hear the man say god doesnt make mistakes so what now what would he say to my aunt she was a mistake she was born but the docs decided what she should be how is that her fault she has emotional feeling of a male but god created her what can he say now a person is a person nomatter what color race or gender


  • Name: Bill
    Date posted: 2008-11-14 10:56 PM
    Hometown: Greenacres

    Comment:

    I watched the Barbara Walters special tonight, and was captivated by Thomas' story. I have 2 daughters of my own, and a 3rd on the way with my fiance, and believe that the act of bringing life into this world (no matter how "alternative" the family may seem to society) is a beautiful an amazing event. The first time I looked in my daughters' eyes, I learned what love REALLY was. I see absolutely no issue with this beautiful family, so long as it is full of love, respect and happiness. I am saddened for couples like this who end up dealing with narrow-minded bigots who think they have a right to tell others how they should live. Family is not made purely by "mom, dad, kid" configuration. Family is made by a feeling of love that ties people together. I wish this beautiful family many years of happiness and congratulate them on baby #2 on the way.


  • Name: Michelle
    Date posted: 2008-11-14 10:28 AM
    Hometown: Fort Worth, TX

    Comment:

    " Melanie Date posted: 2008-07-04 8:22 AM Hometown: England Comment: I'm a MtF, married to a FtM. We have 4 genetic children, two of which were born after our gender change had become inevitable. We have avoided the limelight completely, to the point of moving to another country to get away from anyone who used to know us. Our children grow up happy in a completely normal family. Neither my husband nor I show any signs of having been born the opposite sex, not in appearance, voice, or behavior. You hatemongers would be surprised, you may know a number of "such people" and have never known - nor will you, ever. Our two youngest children don't even know - why should they? Thomas, you should have avoided the press like the plague. You had your 5 minutes, but it will not make you happy. " Why would you hide the truth from your kids in shame????? It makes you seem as bad as the hatemongers. You don't have to tell the whole world, but your kids deserve to know.


  • Name: SRR
    Date posted: 2008-11-14 6:06 AM
    Hometown: Studio City

    Comment:

    - (continued) I get the whole wanting to have kids, being a trans, being in love & getting married, etc. But I don't think it's right to make us out to be idiots. We can't call ourselves whatever we deem just because externally we appear to be. I've been taught never to judge a book by it's cover & Thomas your cover doesn't represent your content. Bottom line - I can't dress for Halloween as a cop and claim to be one all year long just cuz i have the outfit to match. Lets be honest with yourself, and everyone else!


  • Name: SRR
    Date posted: 2008-11-14 6:05 AM
    Hometown: Studio City

    Comment:

    I'm all for not judging people & believing that people should just be (if/when they're not hurting anyone) I commend Thomas & Nancy for pursuing their dreams. I wish them well & may they have a beautiful, prosperous happy life. Now, with that said, I'm a very straight-out person & call things for what they are. Thomas you're a WOMAN - plain and simple. There's no denying. Just cuz U removed your breasts & got on testosterone injections (to develop man-like features) doesn't automatically make U a man. U still have the XX chromosomes, REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS & menstruate. Please don't insult our intelligence!


  • Name: chis
    Date posted: 2008-11-13 7:09 PM
    Hometown: Hometown,Illinois

    Comment:

    The media and everyone else need to quit calling HER the pregnant man. She is not a man by any stretch of the imagination. They had a baby great, but stop calling her a man it is not right


  • Name: Kirsten Fabi
    Date posted: 2008-11-13 11:26 AM
    Hometown: Pincourt

    Comment:

    Hi there. I am a mother of three girls with my loving husband. I just heard about the new pregnancy and am soooo happy for you. Your baby girl will be a great big sister, and I am sure, your love will only grow. I am so proud of you both for doing what is right for you both. I send you all of the acceptance, love, and kindness that you may not have received from others. You have a beautiful family and I wish you all of the love and happiness in the world. Good luck with the new pregnancy, and full of kisses to you all. Love Kirsten xoxoxo


  • Name: Belinda Steger
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 8:34 AM
    Hometown: New Orleans, La.

    Comment:

    Can't believe how cruel people are, wait- no, I can. Well I don't want to waist my time or my breath telling judgmental people what I think of them because I would be just like them...... Plus, I get to use all of my energy telling Tom and his wife congrats and hope to hear more happy good news in the future...


  • Name: R. Longford
    Date posted: 2008-10-08 9:29 PM
    Hometown: Vancouver, WA

    Comment:

    I believe all children are a gift and I believe all people should live their lives the way they want to. However I have to admit I feel pretty duped. The title, "Man Having a Baby" is very misleading. Imagine my disappointment when I discovered that the only thing Thomas did to go from woman to man was have his breasts cut off and take male hormone shots. I respect that Thomas wants to be a man and he can call himself whatever he wants. But biologically and genetically, Thomas is 100% female. The headlines are really really deceiving. But good luck to Thomas and Nancy and the new baby!


  • Name: K
    Date posted: 2008-09-26 5:18 PM
    Hometown: G

    Comment:

    I find it very disturbing that the most hatefull, evil, and treating comments come from people who claim they are Bible lovers. Where in the Bible does it say that is is our right to JUDGE anyone? Where does it say to spread hate and contempt to anyone or anything you do not understand? What about people that are born with both sex organs? Where are they in your small little world? I am truley sorry there are so many people like you in the world, ignorance is no excuse for some of the things that have been said on this site. And by the way Thomas said he had a breast reduction nothing that woud stop breast feeding, and his wife could breast feed, she has all the equipment. The breasts are not conected to the female organs. Also a Man born a Man can produce breast milk. Unfortunatly this family will have to deal with ignorant people like you forever. But they will do fine. They have love in their life.


  • Name: Marie
    Date posted: 2008-09-12 11:03 AM
    Hometown: Arlington, TX

    Comment:

    ...I don't think someone who is mentally and spiritually male would keep their internal female sex organs. If keeping them was only so that procreation would be possible, wouldn't you just save your eggs? Look to a surrogate? I don't know. A -man-, full on mental-emotional-spiritually male MAN would not consent to pregnancy just because he happened to have the right parts. That's a woman's job. Basically. All I'm saying, is.. Tom isn't your traditional TS. I still wish everyone babyluck, but .. pregnant man? I'd accept more from a man who had every last female part and was forced to pregnancy.


  • Name: Daniela
    Date posted: 2008-08-19 4:32 PM
    Hometown: Wherever happy

    Comment:

    I agree, it only matters that they love eachother....


  • Name: Elizabeth
    Date posted: 2008-07-27 7:25 PM
    Hometown: Somewhere California

    Comment:

    Those on here who talk about genders negatively are idiots. As long as the child has parents who love them there is nothing wrong and as long as love exists gender doesn't matter.


  • Name: cindy
    Date posted: 2008-07-26 1:02 PM
    Hometown: corona,ca

    Comment:

    I wonder if thomas uses the women or mens bathroom in public. I think he need help mentally, this poor little girl will be messed up for the rest of her life she will have to tell her friends that daddy was the one who gave birth to her, thats so so sad, we have enough problems in our world, this will just add to it more.


  • Name: Spanky
    Date posted: 2008-07-11 10:31 AM
    Hometown: Atlanta

    Comment:

    I see the molly-coddlers, johnny milktoasts and just plain asskissing politically correct buffoons are running rampant on this site. Look at Connies statement..."Thomas Beatie is a man because that is how he identifies." How silly. He is not a man. Any baby a man may have would be referred to as a TURD. Its a physical impossibility. Grow up you oversexed teenagers.


  • Name: Michelle
    Date posted: 2008-07-10 3:54 PM
    Hometown: Phoenix

    Comment:

    I'm surprised that you trust humanity enough to make it known that you are having a baby. You are brave for taking the initiative to step out and not be ashamed of your life choices. This encourages others (not just TG folk) to live their lives under their definitions of reality, not the masses' definition. Of course, in doing this you will encounter a lot of enraged people who not only want to but NEED to have a tightly defined reality to feel secure (i.e. certain highly intolerant fundementalists of any religion).


  • Name: Connie
    Date posted: 2008-07-09 3:10 PM
    Hometown: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

    Comment:

    It fascinates me how many Americans are completely intolerant and uneducated. Thomas Beatie is a man because that is how he identifies. I imagine for those who believe in a simplistic Christian narrative that hetero-normativity and gender-as-social-construct is hard to understand. But if you look historically, religious beliefs change and grow depending on social contexts, power relations, and economic realities. How amazing that so many Americans are unaware that Christianity is a temporal social construct! Good Luck, Thomas. Unfortunately, I think you are going to need it. BTW - My friend (an other transman) gave birth a few years ago and his baby is just divine. Move on up to Canada if things get too rough down south. There are many ignorant folks in Canada too, but at least you have the government on your side.


  • Name: Spanky
    Date posted: 2008-07-08 2:17 PM
    Hometown: Atlanat

    Comment:

    Utter nonsense and stupidity. A man cannot have a baby. Anyone who believes this tripe is living in denial butt once they feel the flames of hell fire on there perverted ass and Satan triple headed penis penetrating their anal sphincter they will then know Game on. You sick twisted freaks...burn in hell.


  • Name: Jaclyn
    Date posted: 2008-07-07 10:47 PM
    Hometown: Danvers

    Comment:

    Nadine (both of you unless it was the same person commenting twice) from TX, shut the hell up. Seriously. This couple I'm sure has had to hear this stupid little spiel many a time and yours means nothing. You pathetic god-fearing/loving christians are disgusting, honestly. Leave Thomas and Nancy alone. God does not exist. If he did, and supposedly "loved all his children" he would not have a problem with their decision. I think it is incredibly rude to assume that they will be bad parents and already are for wanting to have a child in their situation. You have no right whatsoever to make that assumption as you do not know either of them. They are not going to hell for their decision to have a child, as such a place is scientifically impossible. I wish Nancy and Thomas luck with their child and their future, and hope that they don't encounter any more people like you.


  • Name: JB Lo
    Date posted: 2008-07-07 10:17 AM
    Hometown: Johannesburg

    Comment:

    If you ever think about emigrating ... you will be more than welcome in my neighbourhood. We South Africans struggle to hear such good news stories and have them make huge headlines. Good luck with the little one ...


  • Name: Diana
    Date posted: 2008-07-04 10:29 AM
    Hometown: Canada

    Comment:

    She's a female. A woman. No matter what you do to change it, you're still going to be the person you came into this world as. I think it's sick that everyone wants to recognize her as a male and then give "him" praise for being a "male" who gave birth. It's an attack and an insult to women everywhere.


  • Name: Alberto
    Date posted: 2008-07-04 8:29 AM
    Hometown: Itly

    Comment:

    ONLY THE BRAVE... THE STUPID ONLY... FOR ME HE MUST'NT LIVE A LONG...


  • Name: Melanie
    Date posted: 2008-07-04 8:22 AM
    Hometown: England

    Comment:

    I'm a MtF, married to a FtM. We have 4 genetic children, two of which were born after our gender change had become inevitable. We have avoided the limelight completely, to the point of moving to another country to get away from anyone who used to know us. Our children grow up happy in a completely normal family. Neither my husband nor I show any signs of having been born the opposite sex, not in appearance, voice, or behavior. You hatemongers would be surprised, you may know a number of "such people" and have never known - nor will you, ever. Our two youngest children don't even know - why should they? Thomas, you should have avoided the press like the plague. You had your 5 minutes, but it will not make you happy.


  • Name: what??
    Date posted: 2008-07-04 12:29 AM
    Hometown: NYC

    Comment:

    Read the follow-up in a few years about the lawsuit facing the doctors who said the pregnancy will be fine. If the baby has complications down the line.. good luck doctors! Amazing and sad that there are so many doctors willing to take such risks to cater to the lack of esteem and insufficiency of people who are unhappy with themselves! In the pictures the beard still growing on the woman (Tracy/Thomas) pretending to be a man, who has been off the testosterone for many months since the start of pregnancy. This baby may have some serious physical/biological problems down the line.


  • Name: CL
    Date posted: 2008-07-04 12:04 AM
    Hometown: Vancouver

    Comment:

    Man give Birth is Awesome and i have tons of friend that is a Transgender and it is kool and it is Awesome


  • Name: Christina
    Date posted: 2008-07-03 7:29 PM
    Hometown: Lisbon

    Comment:

    I am appalled at the ignorance and hate of this world. The so called christians who spew hatered ...as if that would allure this couple to repent. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Christ is about love and mercies and grace! Thomas and Nancy only God can say what is wrong or right. I find it fascinating that science can create a man out of a womans body and vice versa. The love you two share to come to this agreement is a profound one. I bless you and your family with strength and courage to continue to share this moment. But please remember why you did this and the love for a child. Dont let fame and book deals sour your relationship. I pray that your families come to understand and accept what is done. I pray that your daughter grows up to be a courageous little girl who fights for peoples rights and has tremendous compassion and empathy. God Bless you all!


  • Name: Elizabeth Lanoie
    Date posted: 2008-07-03 4:36 PM
    Hometown: Maine

    Comment:

    Thomas may have a mans name a beard and a double masectomy but she still has female reproductive organs therefore she is not a MAN. Although i am very happy for the couple and their new addition and i wish them well.


  • Name: Nadine
    Date posted: 2008-07-02 6:03 PM
    Hometown: tx

    Comment:

    the future is written, if you will pick up a bible and read it you will see for yourself, it is not a fairytale, he is real you have heard the word now it's up to you to make the correct decision. This is not the right way, we all fall short but what do we do after we get up, brush yourselves off and start again. dont be angry just ask God for forgiveness. For god so love the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever Believeth in him will not perish but have Everlasting life. Just Believe. A child is precious innocent bundle of joy, she will be loved by many.


  • Name: asd
    Date posted: 2008-06-30 1:44 AM
    Hometown: das

    Comment:

    I don't care and besides. Where's the god? A: THERE IS NO GOD! that's just a fairy tale :D if it's or as you might say "He, Allmaighty" is real as santa claus or tooth fairy or even peter pan is realer than god :D


  • Name: Nadine
    Date posted: 2008-06-28 4:37 PM
    Hometown: tx

    Comment:

    THE DEVIL is awake and working overtime. QUIT working for him people. The end is drawing near Jesus is coming soon, See the signs. So call men want babies, NO NO NO. for 100% Women only. Your Creator is not happy, God Almighty, He loves his children NOT this decision.


  • Name: Nadine
    Date posted: 2008-06-28 4:17 PM
    Hometown: texas

    Comment:

    you couldnt have said it any better, you are correct. A man cannot have or make a baby, you kept your female organs, therefore you are still a woman who enjoys dressing like a man and taking drugs to appear to be a man, internally you are a lady, sorry, Mrs. Thumbs up to the doctors who will not address you as a man, you are not a man, you were created to be a woman and women bears children stop creating your own interpretation of pregnancy, if you're wrong you're just wrong, your child will be lost, confused and ridiculed by her peers, you have created a ugly world for your child with this decision, so far I can tell that you will be terrible parents, this is the life you're offering to this child, What is this world coming to, this is the devils work, repent or you will be going to hell.


  • Name: S.M. King
    Date posted: 2008-06-23 5:03 PM
    Hometown: Tucson, AZ

    Comment:

    Whether or not this is a "first," I am really interested in the fact that a positive, non-binaried story surrounding gender and biology is making news at all. For those of us making our own decisions about our bodies, it helps to know what our options will be. That said, if one of you lovely reporters (or anyone else, for that matter) has the opportunity to ask the brave men who are doing this whether their surgeries have impacted their ability to breast-feed, and if so, how they are handling that, I would probably not be the only person curious for that answer.


  • Name: bob
    Date posted: 2008-06-15 4:03 PM
    Hometown: crewe

    Comment:

    Americans are the craziest people on the planet - get over yourselves please!