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Obama's Faith-Based Program Meets With Skepticism
Senator Obama's pledge to spend $500 million to expand religions' social services for people in need is a tough sell to many LGBT activists, even as some lean toward cautious optimism.
An Advocate.com exclusive posted July 8, 2008
Obama's Faith-Based Program Meets With Skepticism

Sen. Barack Obama announced last week his intention as president to build on President Bush’s faith-based outreach programs by expanding federal funding for them -- a move that landed with a thud among many LGBT advocates.

“This is just a major weakening and a breach in the wall between church and state,” said Wayne Besen, founder of Truth Wins Out, an organization that fights right-wing propaganda and so-called ex-gay ministries.

Obama said he would allocate at least $500 million to create a new White House office for the President's Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. The concept immediately sparked the question of whether religious groups that receive federal funding can discriminate against people in their hiring practices. In contrast to President Bush, who issued executive orders giving religious-based groups funded by federal money the right to consider religious beliefs in their hiring practices, Obama indicated that he would reverse that practice.

The materials distributed by the campaign said groups receiving money would not be allowed to proselytize to or discriminate against people receiving services and would have to comply with federal antidiscrimination laws, including Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which enforces equal opportunity employment. However, LGBT people would still have no legal recourse in many states since federal law fails to provide protection against employment discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

“In my view there is no healthy, safe faith-based program,” said Besen. “People will look at Obama and say this is a good person and he’ll do good things, but what happens if McCain is elected and in order to appease the religious right, he chooses as vice president Sam Brownback or Mike Huckabee? Do we really want a tool that can cause great mischief in the hands of fanatics? The idea that you can tame it once the elephant is outside of the cage is just insanity.”

Nonetheless, some LGBT people saw potential in Obama’s initiative.

“I’m thrilled that a progressive Democrat recognizes that for too long we progressives have allowed the right wing to co-opt religion,” said Steven Goldstein, chair of New Jersey’s Garden State Equality and a rabbinical student. “They have done a tragically magnificent job of convincing the nation that people of faith oppose LGBT rights.”

But the Reverend Irene Monroe was more skeptical of Obama’s motives, saying his proposal was little more than a campaign tactic. “President as pastor is no way to run a nation,” she said. “Obama is once again pandering to the Right. And the downside is that he will lose his liberal base, forfeiting him the election.”

Certainly, Obama hopes to peel off the votes of at least some white evangelicals –- a group that accounted for nearly 25% of the electorate in 2004 and a mainstay of the GOP base that John McCain has had trouble shoring up.

John Green, senior fellow at the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, says that if Obama took even 10% of white evangelicals, that could be enough to tip the election. “Bush won by 1% of the vote in 2004, and Kerry took 22% of the white evangelical vote,” said Green. “Every bit that Obama can add to that 22% will move the election in his favor.” Bill Clinton won roughly 32% of white evangelicals in the 1990s.

Green says polling evidence suggests that Obama could conceivably win 8% to 10% more of the demographic than John Kerry –- or he might do even better than that. “Some other people without poll evidence but perhaps with an accurate understanding of what’s going on politically in the evangelical community suggest that it might even be higher -– that it might be 15% more or 20%more,” Green added.

Although some LGBT advocates don’t agree with the initiative, they do understand the politics at work.

“From a political standpoint, it’s a plus for Obama,” Besen said. “Will Obama lose support over this? No, because our option is now John McCain, who is supporting the marriage amendment in California and who is meeting with conservatives in Ohio.”

But Green sees a risk in the collective constituencies that might oppose governmental faith-based programs: both nonreligious and progressive religious people who believe church and state should be kept separate, conservative Christians who don’t want federal money to taint their prophetic voice, LGBT voters, and others.

“You put all those groups together and that’s a lot of votes, and not just votes in the country at large but in important states like Ohio,” explained Green. “Obama needs to get every progressive vote he can get.”

Cost or Benefit?

Politics aside, the question of whether government funded faith-based programs are a good idea is open to interpretation.

Besen has traveled the country talking to highly religious people. “One thing I’ve learned is that faith is something that’s very powerful for these individuals and it’s not something that can be easily controlled or manipulated for political gain,” he said. “Once you open that Pandora’s box and you turn faith into a tool of the state, it’s not something you can put back in.”

Part of Obama’s call to arms last week was a recognition that the U.S. government doesn’t have enough resources to take care of the country’s neediest all by itself. “We need an all-hands-on-deck approach,” the senator said at his press conference.

But Besen rejected that notion out of hand. “Americans have to make a choice as to what kind of government they want,” he said, noting that many countries provide universal health care. “I don’t think privatizing the solution to churches that discriminate is the answer.”

Discrimination is the sticking point on several fronts, including who gets hired, who receives services, and which organizations draw funding. While the Obama camp addressed the first two issues last week, whether queer faith-based programs like those of the Metropolitan Community Church will have an equal shot at funding remains in question.

MCC, which has about 227 churches nationwide, has not received any funding under the Bush administration because denominational leaders feared they would be disqualified by the requirement that organizations adhere to abstinence-only teachings, known in the guidelines as being “ABC” compliant. The Reverend Dr. Cindi Love, MCC's executive director, said that even after she attended two government training sessions so the organization could properly apply for money, she and her colleagues became convinced that the application would automatically be rejected.

They had hoped to get funding for a program that works with crystal meth users to reduce their incidence of HIV infection. “The truth is, if you say you’re ABC compliant, then you can get money,” she said. Love cited recent studies released that conclude abstinence-only programming has been largely ineffective and added, “We just don’t know whether Obama is going to follow what has been support of something that simply doesn’t work.”

However, Love sees the same need as Obama and thinks there’s a place for governmental and faith-based collaboration.

“Churches are the largest mobilized volunteer force in the world. I think it would be hard to imagine that you could actually deal with a pandemic in the absence of churches being involved,” she said, noting that religious organizations provide about 50% of AIDS health care services in Africa.

Despite the funding roadblocks MCC has come up against, Love believes government money should be made available to any religious organization that can adequately provide the services, even those that use abstinence-only guidelines.

“Those people are still providing, shelter, hospice, feeding programs and clothing programs, trips to doctors,” she said. “If faith-based money is going to be made available to churches, it should be made available to any church that has a legitimate delivery mechanism for compassionate care regardless of their statement of faith or their methodology in working with people who are afflicted.”

She calls herself cautiously optimistic about the program Obama announced last week. “I want to believe that Senator Obama really grasps that in the absence of highly effective intervention in the lives of people who have HIV/AIDS, who are caught up in poverty and crystal meth, he really can’t begin to do what he says he wants to do, which is to heal our country.” 

Eleveld is news editor of The Advocate.
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  • Name: Xavier
    Date posted: 2008-07-21 10:06 AM
    Hometown: Hamburg, Germany

    Comment:

    ...because actions speak louder than words. Mentioning us in a few speeches, is not the same as commiting to back our issues (which he is not). Furthermore, Obama has refused to meet with any gay organizations, publications, or leaders which says a lot about his interest in gay interests. I think the Advocate realizes Obama's hypocrisy and is trying to educate the misinformed public that he needs to do a LOT more than talk the talk.


  • Name: AdvocateBias
    Date posted: 2008-07-18 6:04 PM
    Hometown: Boystown

    Comment:

    From the Bay Windows: Obama still inclusive Even though he’s won the Democratic nomination and some political observers see him as moving more toward the political right in recent weeks, Barack Obama is still including gays in his speeches before non-gay crowds. Speaking July 13, before the National Council of La Raza, a national Hispanic political organization, Obama said that people who feel "the system just isn’t made for people like you, I say this: that system and this country belong to every last one of us - black and white, Latino and Asian, rich and poor, gay and straight, young and old." His campaign also sent out an email this month sharing photos of Obama supporters at gay pride celebrations around the country last month holding up "Obama Pride" signs of support for the candidate. Why doesn't the Advocate report on things like this?


  • Name: Danny
    Date posted: 2008-07-11 11:25 PM
    Hometown: Davenport, FL

    Comment:

    Obama is a Republican in democratic sheep's clothing. Only organizations which use scientific fact should be considered as extensions of the government. Bush did away with that over 7 years ago. Religious organizations, including MCC, have an evil, self-serving and selfish agenda. When will the world learn that given a chance, and plenty of money, these self-claimed religious authorities would be back in the business of a "Religious Inquisition" much as happened 500 years ago, and everyone would fear for their lives and the lives of anyone they know. A religious leopard can never (nor will ever willingly) change its spots. I saw this all coming when Regan was elected, and it scared me into abject fear back then. Religion should be about getting one's soul into heaven, not forcing one's beliefs and desires on others. Any religious organization which gets involved in politics is a political organization and MUST BE REGULATED AS SUCH.


  • Name: Kristen Breitweiser
    Date posted: 2008-07-10 10:32 AM
    Hometown: New Jersey

    Comment:

    Any Obama supporters who initially found Clinton unacceptable because of her triangulation and willingness to do anything to win, might as well listen to your own recent justifications about Obama and his own triangulation and willingness to do anything to win. Besides the Superdelegates have not yet voted. They cast their vote at the Convention in August which means Hillary Clinton's "suspended" campaign could be reinstated. (Because, Oh, Yes She Can!)


  • Name: JP
    Date posted: 2008-07-09 5:44 PM
    Hometown: New York, NY

    Comment:

    I think all of you at the Advocate are still bitter about the fact that your favored candidate- Hillary Clinton- is not the nominee. When is the last time you wrote something positive about Senator Obama? When Michelle Obama got a standing ovation in front of a gay audience, the Advocate didn't write anything at first, and later posted an Associated Press story about it. It's time to get over your sour feelings toward a very good candidate.


  • Name: Jereasy
    Date posted: 2008-07-09 3:13 PM
    Hometown: New Orleans

    Comment:

    I have no choice but to support Obama (and he knows it) but I am deeply disturbed and disappointed by his stance on FISA, faith-based funding, the death penalty and gun control. What's next, abortion rights? GLBT's will be thrown under the bus if it'll help get his sorry ass elected. Why did I expect more of him when I know that politicians were only created to bilk us and break our hearts?


  • Name: Nancy
    Date posted: 2008-07-09 11:32 AM
    Hometown: Lafayette, IN

    Comment:

    Our fore founders understood that Church and State should not be mixed. Many people have been killed based on religious belief, whether thru war, greed or bigotry.


  • Name: Ed Gould
    Date posted: 2008-07-08 11:52 PM
    Hometown: Chicago

    Comment:

    I agree with your idea about non of the above vote. *NONE* of the candidates IMO are worth electing. *EVEN* if Hillary would have made it instead of Obama, I still would not have voted for her either. The Democratic party has nobody to blame but themselves. I have written the politicians and informed them if the vote for the Bush administrations FISA "wish" bill I would work against them and I truly will. I am absolutely filled up with Bush and his cronies and Obama and his complete lack of leadership qualities *AND* now this faith initiative. We should petition the federal government to get a NON OF THE ABOVE on the ballot this November. I am mad as hell and I am not going to take this any longer.


  • Name: Warren
    Date posted: 2008-07-08 8:14 PM
    Hometown: Avon,CT

    Comment:

    I don't need preached at for my sins, I need "real" help, I spent 20 years in a christian sect, and never once that I can remember getting a "good job, well-done"pat on the back, but, if I didn't do something they approved of, which is most of the time, I certain herd of it. Working for "their" Lord & Master is tiring and debilitating. It's slavery pure and simple. They all have a list of things they approve of and if your not approved by a faith-based group, you won't get help, "will they have Mogen-David in Heaven" then who the h___ wants to go... many mission people will endure a sermon to get fed, but why? do they really get converted or helped, just a temporary meal/fix...It's another pass-the-buck government program...we are better off helping each other..... Gee!!! I sure hope there turns out to be a "real" merciful Jesus who really understands....


  • Name: Harry
    Date posted: 2008-07-08 7:14 PM
    Hometown: Arlington, VA

    Comment:

    The Faith Based move is very disturbing. Religion does not have a place in deciding who gets services. Perhaps we should consider voting none of the above.


  • Name: Jim
    Date posted: 2008-07-08 5:52 PM
    Hometown: Lewiston

    Comment:

    The Fact that Americans won't vote in Ron Paul is the main reason this country deserves what it gets. More unconstitutional stupidity. America is dead. Jim


  • Name: Mark
    Date posted: 2008-07-08 4:04 PM
    Hometown: Tampa

    Comment:

    BHO has given me yet another reason not to vote for him in November. Looks like I'm voting Green once again.


  • Name: Ian Boswell
    Date posted: 2008-07-08 1:15 PM
    Hometown: Jacksonville

    Comment:

    If this measure only provided money to organizations with a good human rights record I could see this being a reason to vote for him, but you can forget it now. Both candidates are equally terrible in my eyes. Some of my dearest friends in the past have committed suicide after calling a local suicide hotline only to find it run by faith-based groups who just wanted to "cure" the "problem" of homosexuality rather than address the real crisis issues like being kicked out home or whatever. I was an Obama supporter until I read this.


  • Name: Alex
    Date posted: 2008-07-08 12:18 PM
    Hometown: Chapel Hill, NC

    Comment:

    Why should The Advocate say anything nice about Obama? he doesnt support gay marriage and he wants to give money to religious groups. Nobama '08!


  • Name: Xavier Chapa
    Date posted: 2008-07-08 6:20 AM
    Hometown: Hamburg, Germany

    Comment:

    Maybe if Obama actually DID somethig nice for gays the Advocate would print it. At this rate, I'm not convinced to give him my support.


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