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USMA Chief Wants Gender-Neutral West Point Songs

The head of the U.S. Military Academy thinks it's time to replace the ''men'' and ''sons'' in West Point's two most beloved songs with more gender-neutral lyrics.

Lt. Gen. Franklin ''Buster'' Hagenbeck, superintendent of the nation's oldest military academy, told a congressional oversight committee Wednesday that with more than 3,000 women graduating from West Point since 1976, the change is long overdue.

During a presentation Wednesday to the academy's board of visitors meeting in Washington, Hagenbeck said he wants to change the words to the military academy's alma mater and its companion piece, ''The Corps.'' Both songs date back about a century.

In ''The Corps,'' the proposals include changing ''The men'' to ''The ranks,'' and ''We sons'' to ''The corps.''

The superintendent said the changes aren't being pushed by female cadets, but it's a commonsense move considering the role women play in today's military.

''When are they going to be recognized for what they're doing?'' he said.

Hagenbeck said he got the idea for the revision two years ago at a ceremony commemorating the 30th anniversary of women being admitted to West Point. He listened as the female alums sang lyrics from the songs that included ''We sons of today, we salute you.''

Hagenbeck has spent the last few months discussing the possible changes with alumni, Army brass, and cadets. He said he'll make the final decision, possibly after graduation ceremonies on May 31 and before the class of 2012 arrives this summer.

The academy's board of visitors, made up of presidential appointees and members of Congress, voted unanimously to back whatever decision he makes. (AP)

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  • Name: Paul Yarbrough
    Date posted: 2008-05-27 6:25 PM
    Hometown: Houston, Texas

    Comment:

    The Long Gray Line died a long time ago.


  • Name: Case
    Date posted: 2008-05-27 2:36 PM
    Hometown: Sallisaw, OK

    Comment:

    The PC parade of insanity rolls on... Total nonsense.


  • Name: Danayay
    Date posted: 2008-05-20 12:14 PM
    Hometown: Chi-town

    Comment:

    A Grad. The word god was not added to the pledge of allegiance until 1951 and not officially until 1954. And Christmas celebrations are only inclusive to one narrowminded religion, instead of all inclusive of the masses. I find that argument quite lacking.


  • Name: A grad
    Date posted: 2008-05-19 1:55 PM
    Hometown: Dayton, OH

    Comment:

    My sister and I, both female graduates, like the songs the way they are. Because they are traditional songs, they aren't offensive to us. USMA does a pretty good job of ensuring that any "new" customs and rituals are gender-neutral. To me, changing the Alma Mater or the Corps is akin to taking "God" out of the pledge of allegiance or banning "Christmas" celebrations in favor of "Holiday" festivals. Maybe we should gender-neutralize the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. I'm curious to know what the exact wording change would be. I can't imagine any gender-neutral change that wouldn't sound completely awkward.


  • Name: JP
    Date posted: 2008-05-17 5:51 PM
    Hometown: Issaquah, WA

    Comment:

    About damn time. I served, not in the Army, but was so tired to be in a group and be called "men" when "crew" could have worked as well. That is what I was, part of the crew.


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