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November 06, 2008

Prop. 8 Protest Takes Over Los Angeles

Prop. 8 Protest Takes Over Los Angeles

“What do we want? Equality! When do we want it? Now!"

Reacting to Wednesday morning's news that California's Prop. 8 has likely passed and eliminated same-sex marriage in the state, a crowd of some 2,000 protesters took to the streets Wednesday evening, marching down West Hollywood's Sunset Strip and backing up traffic for blocks.

In Hollywood at least two other groups marched in protest. One group marched more than two miles from West Hollywood to Hollywood, passing the CNN tower and the Arclight theater. Another group took to the Hollywood and Highland shopping complex. Local news crews are reporting that a few arrests have been made. Los Angeles's CW affiliate reported that three police officers had taken their billy clubs to a man who jumped on the hood of a cop car.

Though some 3 million provisional and absentee ballots have yet to be counted, Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center CEO Lorri Jean, at a rally preceding the march, advised against false hopes. In all likelihood, she said, Yes on 8 has won.

No on 8 and Equality California called the rally to thank volunteers for their support and assure the community the fight would carry on.

But the crowd appeared angry and frustrated, with much of that anger directed at the Mormon Church, which provided the bulk of funding for the Yes on 8 campaign. Several attempts to get the crowd to block traffic on Santa Monica Blvd. failed as speakers including Jean and city council member John Duran addressed the crowd.

When the speaking ended, the angry and motivated crowd marched out of central West Hollywood and up the hill to Sunset Blvd. A police escort led the crowd of some 2,000 people nearly a mile through the main drag of West Hollywood's Sunset Strip, the city's central hub for dining and nightlife.

With traffic backed up, people were honking, cheering and offering high fives of support to the crowd as marchers wove in between stopped cars. People poured onto restaurant balconies to take photos, some even leaving their meals to join the march.

The occasional driver sat stuck in traffic and watched silently, but no one seemed to outwardly oppose the peaceful protest.

At one point, marchers began to sit down in the middle of a busy intersection. It lasted all of two minutes before No on 8 volunteers urged people to keep moving and “stay visible.”

Earlier, a smaller group took off mid rally and headed for Hollywood. That group grew throughout the evening and eventually split into two.

Reports are coming in of similar marches in San Diego and San Francisco, where thousands marched on City Hall holding candles.

“It's the most amazing thing I've ever seen,” said one man who joined the Sunset Strip march after seeing it from his apartment balcony, fighting back tears. “We may not have won today, but we will soon. I know it.” (Ross von Metzke, The Advocate)

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  • Name: David
    Date posted: 2008-11-20 10:54 AM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    Come on, what's the divorce rate for marriages these days? 40-50%? And marriage is such a sanctified undertaking in the eyes of the God? The Church? Allah? Wake up. Let's see how many people would get "married" if the LAWS were changed to legally mean " till death do us part". If you get married, you can NEVER get divorced!!!!! Gay or straight. Marriage is not the sanctified, religious, and GOD approved union everyone loves to say it is.


  • Name: Joe
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 10:50 PM
    Hometown: Gaysville

    Comment:

    We're your neighbors and your colleagues - and you don't complain when our tax dollars support attempts at educating your ignorant, fat, illiterate children. Why don't YOU back off?


  • Name: Angelika
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 1:21 PM
    Hometown: Manhattan

    Comment:

    You people are pathetic. God defined 'Marriage' as the union between a man and a woman. Obviously you are too stupid to know that there is a difference in the two. You can't redefine a work or a principle. If you want to call it something other than marriage then do so, like unionization or whatever makes you feel better. Otherwise, don't dare try to disgrace the sacred union of marriage by claiming it means the same for two men or two women...BECAUSE IT DOESN'T. If it were meant for two men or two women to be together they would have been created with the correct genitals to do so. BUT they were not. This is the only problem we have, if you wanna call it something else then do so, but don't think for a minute that marriage is meant for the same sexes. Don't fool yourselves.


  • Name: andrew
    Date posted: 2008-11-15 7:26 AM
    Hometown: wood-ridge

    Comment:

    the reason all those groups supported prop 8 is that they know the ultimate goal of the radical gay groups is to get gay marriage recognized on a federal level and then file anti-descrimination law suits against churches who refuse to preform gay marriages in an attempt to take away their tax exempt status. Just like they did to the boy scouts. You're a bunch of bullies. I'm gay have a boyfriend, we are engaged, and am perfectly happy with having a civil union, it's called a happy medium. All this craziness and extremely offensive behavior (stomping on crosses, going into churches and disrupting services) defeats your purpose. All of your christo-phobic behavior wins us no allies.


  • Name: ron
    Date posted: 2008-11-08 11:22 PM
    Hometown: los angeles

    Comment:

    You are all a bunch of perverts!! And a freakin bunch of terrorists!!!!! You can't accept the way that the people of CA voted, so you have to try to FORCE the issue!! You are nothing less than TERRORISTS!!!!! Sexual perversion should not be made a LAW!!! You idiots should just give in to the will of the people, who voted not to accept your life style. And Yes! your lifestyle is nothing less than a form of sexual perversion!! You have made many inroads and perhaps control much of LA and the Entertainment industry, and more. So be happy, You are out of the closet and into every relm of society. But please, just don't force it down everyone on all measures in all ways now! You are only drawing the ire and anger of everyone now! Back OFF!!!!


  • Name: Kayla Workman
    Date posted: 2008-11-07 1:00 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    i think we need to organize calm, non-violent protests. why don't we all make a sign and sit on the sidewalk quietly. organizing violent marches isn't making us look good, yes its showing out support but it makes a lot of people think we're just idiots with loud voices.


  • Name: mike wilson
    Date posted: 2008-11-07 10:34 AM
    Hometown: highland, ca

    Comment:

    In 1964 blacks and whites couldn't marry each other either. How would the vote have turned out in the deep South if they allowed those people to vote on it. Our rights were snatched away from us and the movement was funded by a group of people that were just marrying 12 year girls just a few years ago. A majority should not be able vote away the rights of a minority, that is why we will continue to fight! No more Mr. Nice Gay! We have had peaceful protests long enough! Mike Wilson Highland, Ca.


  • Name: Joe
    Date posted: 2008-11-07 3:19 AM
    Hometown: OC

    Comment:

    Those of you that believe in same sex marriage, Why limit marriage to exclude any sex, immediate family relationship, or number of partners? Factually speaking, these groups are all discriminated against when it comes to the state granting marriage licenses to these groups as well. Bet you won't stand up for their violated "civil rights". Truth is that you argue from your own moral position based on your world view of love and marriage relationships. It's still your subjective moral definition. Don't slam those that argue from their own moral position if you're not willing to to extend civil rights to polygamists and incest marriages as well.


  • Name: Dana
    Date posted: 2008-11-07 2:00 AM
    Hometown: Pasadena

    Comment:

    I find it ironic that a population that has a 70% out of wedlock birth rate votes that other people who actually want to get married can't. Blacks have decided that that they need someone to be better than. Most Blacks voted yesterday and the overwhelming numbers of them think that they are the only ones who have ever been discriminated against.


  • Name: Drew
    Date posted: 2008-11-07 12:51 AM
    Hometown: Valencia

    Comment:

    How do you know when/where the protests will be?


  • Name: Kristin
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 10:26 PM
    Hometown: New Orleans

    Comment:

    Seriously? What the--why give a group of people a right they fought for-and well deserve-and then take it away? As a heterosexual, ROMAN CATHOLIC, I understand that a gay marriage affects me just as much as a straight marriage. Not much. I can't for the life of me understand why this is still an issue with some people-it's NOT affecting you? Because you don't want to see 2 men or women holding hands or kissing? Grow up and stop being so hateful-you're attitude affects me; people showing love-regardless of sexuality-doesn't.


  • Name: leeann k
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 10:16 PM
    Hometown: san diego

    Comment:

    "Religious organizations that support Proposition 8 include the Roman Catholic Church], Knights of Columbus, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) a group of Evangelical Christians led by Jim Garlow and Miles McPherson" Jim Garlow runs a "church" that practically worships the Dollar Almighty, not to mention his own warped ego. If you go, you will hear nothing about true Christian love in that place, sadly. Yuck. Funny how these "churches" don't try to take away the rights of straight people to divorce, lie, cheat on spouses, or abuse each other. Guess it's easier to stir up their troubled flock with fear than to look at themselves in the mirror.


  • Name: Armando S. Garza
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 10:12 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    IT'S NOT ABOUT "GAY PRIDE" , GAY RIGHTS OR RELIGION...IT'S ABOUT "ALL" AMERICAN HUMAN BEINGS HAVING "EQUAL" RIGHTS...!!! WE SHALL OVERCOME...


  • Name: Tara
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 9:42 PM
    Hometown: Chapel Hill, NC

    Comment:

    This activism makes me so proud. And, echoing another poster, it makes me so much prouder than pride parades, which I find meaningless, too corporate, too pointless to attend any more. We needed a kick in the pants. And, we need to stop being concerned with taking it slowly, not offending, working with our "allies." They don't give a damn about us and won't stick by us. Personally, I don't think marriage is the way to go for gay rights. (Why support something that's coercive, so gendered, so normalizing, etc.) But, excluding a minority group from this right is so clearly discriminatory; the injustice galvanizes me to fight for it. Why the public ever gets to vote on a minority group's rights makes no sense to me.


  • Name: Thomas R. Morgan
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 9:40 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    I was stuck in traffic in West L. A. for over an hour today because the L.A.P.D. shut down all freeway access so commuters couldn't get out. Didn't mind though. Rightous cause. The Civil rights demonstrations in the '60s were replete with Gay Persons in leadership positions, taking the beatings and arrests on behalf of our African American Sisters and Brothers so that they could gain their God given civil rights. It pains me that as that same community celebrates their success on the same day they turn their backs on the Gay community, by voting 70 to 30 for prop 8 supported by massive millions of out of State money. The oppresed becomming the oppressors. It's O. K. though, President Obama's Supreme court will remedy the Tyrany of the many over the few. The dream shall live, yes we can, we shall overcome!


  • Name: David
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 8:52 PM
    Hometown: Albuquerque

    Comment:

    I suggest that if we allow American voters and religous groups to systematically deny the GLBT community our rights, perhaps we should ban marriage for everyone. This would keep "marriage" for those parties that want to have a religious ceremony, but would not permit heterosexuals to have special rights with regards to inheritance, property ownership, hospital visitation rights, insurance coverage, guardianship of children, tax breaks, etc. Let them go to their lawyers and hammer out these issues individually like they make those in the LGBT community do every day. I am most ashamed of our minority brothers and sisters who voted to take rights away from another minority group. It's absolutely shameful!


  • Name: RogerinMA
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 8:33 PM
    Hometown: new bedford

    Comment:

    It all started out with Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No", and it's now become, "Yes We Can!". And We Will, one day, God help me! Equality means Equal.


  • Name: Doug Peterson
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 7:40 PM
    Hometown: Denver

    Comment:

    What happened in Los Angeles County? People still know the difference between lifestyle choices and civil rights. Blacks and Latinos were obviously smart enough to vote for Obama and understand this simple truth. Stop wondering and start thinking. Give other people at least half of the respect you claim you deserve. Leave the Mormons alone. They would be the first to help you in a time of catastrophic need. Check the record they are always there to help!


  • Name: Rachel
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 6:42 PM
    Hometown: tulsa

    Comment:

    I'm from Oklahoma but my dad lives in west hollywood. I had just gotten to his house from the airport and it was all over the news. It was right down the street and I just knew I had to go. I turned to my dad and said "I have to go" and we got our coats and joined the crowd. My dad walked with me until he got tired and then we had to come back. I may not be from california but what california does tends to lead the rest of the country and I do count it as home. Keep the fight going.


  • Name: Joe
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 6:18 PM
    Hometown: Riverside

    Comment:

    Please people repent your way of life any body who goes against the LAW OF GOD is going against GOD PROP 8 RESTORED WHAT GOD LEFT US ITS NOT DISCRIMINITORY YOU JUST DONT GO AGAINST GOD ON ANYTHING WHEN JESUS COMES BACK TO THE WORLD YOU WILL SEE WHAT AWAITS YOU


  • Name: Sam Gordan
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 5:33 PM
    Hometown: Palmdale, California

    Comment:

    What a shame. How can people be so ignorant and vote 'yes'? I just can't see it.


  • Name: JC Johnson
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 4:00 PM
    Hometown: California

    Comment:

    It was on the news - the whole beating but nobody is talking about it. I can't find coverage about it anywhere. Just like the LAPD to cover it up but I saw it with my own eyes.


  • Name: Larry Lauzon
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 3:09 PM
    Hometown: Ottawa, Canada

    Comment:

    You need a new strategy, instead of suing for gay rights start suing the various states where your rights have been restricted due to religous interference. Sue the governments to remove the tax free status of churches, as they now seem to think they can take an active part in legislative affairs. In these hard economic times that will raise at least $1 Billion dollars in tax revenues in California alone. I would be launching a class action suit against the Mormon Church in Utah for interfering in the rights of California residents. I would also sue the IRS to have their charitable status revoked as it is quite obvious that they abused this status. Let the Churches start getting a taste when they have to go to court to justify their status. They may be religous organizations but are acting more like lobbyist and they are not registered as such, and tax exempt stautus is based in their not participating in political matters.


  • Name: David
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 3:07 PM
    Hometown: Plano TX

    Comment:

    A decade ago, my spouse and I were at ground zero (Colorado Springs) of Colorado's infamous Amendment 2 (an attempt to scrap and prohibit all local and state legal protection law based on sexual orientation). It wound it's way thru the Federal court system finally reaching the US Supreme Court, which tossed it as unconstitutional. Hopefully a similar fate awaits Prop 8. The real solution is to get the church and state separated legally when it comes to marriage. Strip the word of ALL its legal associations. Vest NO civil powers to the clergy on the matter. Create civil unions for EVERYONE. Let the churches do as they see fit with the word marriage. Of course the religious idiots would go ballistic over such a solution as they expect "Special Legal Rights" for themselves and they see nothing wrong with mixing church and state. This battle is far from over in CA or nationally.


  • Name: Emilio
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 3:06 PM
    Hometown: San Francisco

    Comment:

    What the hell are you protesting???? The thing was decided by the people fo California. Democracy, pure and simple. They DON'T want gay marriage. They voted, they spoke. Period. Who the hell do you think you are to block traffic for blocks, protesting what the people have voted for??? I am gay, by the way..... But what you're doing is fascism.


  • Name: Equality Will Prevail
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 3:00 PM
    Hometown: Woodland Hills

    Comment:

    i agree with the comment referring to this generations Stonewall. Equality will prevail


  • Name: michael
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 2:30 PM
    Hometown: west hollywood

    Comment:

    70% of African American's voted for Prop 8. 70%! One huge step forward on the wings of "hope" and one huge step backwards into the arms of hate. We must mobilize and express out hurt and anger.


  • Name: michael
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 2:27 PM
    Hometown: west hollywood

    Comment:

    it was on KCOP 13 at 11pm last night


  • Name: JAMES
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 2:04 PM
    Hometown: TAMPA

    Comment:

    FIGHT CALIFORNIA FIGHT !!!!!! WAY TO GO PEOPLE CLOSE THE PLACE DOWN INCITE CIVIL DISOBEDIANCE FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS AND IF THEY BATON YOU AND HOSE YOU REMEMBER SELMA AND GET UP AND GO AGAIN AND AGAIN.


  • Name: Free Girl
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 2:03 PM
    Hometown: LA

    Comment:

    I want to join the protest today at 2..... where do I go? I wish I were there last night. We can't give up... we can back down. Separate but equal IS NOT EQUAL!! This isn’t the 1960’s!


  • Name: Ryan
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 1:57 PM
    Hometown: Hamilton, ON

    Comment:

    Here in Ontario, same-sex marriage is so 2003. Even the homophobes here are over it. I'm saddened that California was not able to stop Prop 8. If California won't allow gay marriage, what hope do we have for the rest of the USA? Shame. One door opens for black Americans, another door slams shut on gay Americans.


  • Name: j
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 1:52 PM
    Hometown: Huntington Beach

    Comment:

    Nope. I am excited prop 8 passed and will continue to support all initiative to support the right way. Rock on prop 8!!!


  • Name: Jawanza Williams
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 1:49 PM
    Hometown: Beaumont Texas

    Comment:

    When will we be treated right? What must we do? Continue to fight....I suppose.


  • Name: Andrew A.
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 1:26 PM
    Hometown: Irving, TX

    Comment:

    I'm disappointed by the passage of Prop 8. My partner and I got married in LA on June 17, 2008. However, I don't think it's a good idea for us to stage impromptu protests, which some could characterize as riots. We lost this battle. Let's just respectfully move on to the next.


  • Name: Anderson
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 12:50 PM
    Hometown: Burbank, CA

    Comment:

    This was the most amazing thing I have ever seen in Los Angeles. And this morning I saw coverage on Good Morning America. National news --- that's what it needed. Today at 2pm, people are marching on the Mormon Temple.


  • Name: Tom
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 12:46 PM
    Hometown: SF Bay Area

    Comment:

    If you look at each California county, the vote on prop 8 seemed to be what one might expect----EXCEPT Los Angeles County. We got all Bay Area counties, and coastal counties from Humboldt County to Monterey County. One would expect that we would also get Los Angeles County. What happened to Los Angeles County? Is this where we lost the election?


  • Name: C. Lee Cutchens
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 12:37 PM
    Hometown: Long Beach, CA

    Comment:

    LGBT: This is our generation's Stonewall. Unite and Fight On!


  • Name: thelea draganic
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 12:29 PM
    Hometown: NYC

    Comment:

    "Religious organizations that support Proposition 8 include the Roman Catholic Church], Knights of Columbus, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons) a group of Evangelical Christians led by Jim Garlow and Miles McPherson, American Family Association, Focus on the Family[and the National Organization for Marriage Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church has also endorsed the measure." This is your enemy. Don't trust exit polls taken when many of these same groups taking them were angry with African-Americans about Obama beating their Christian Right coalition messiah ie Sarah Palin. I think they are pitting one group against the other. Note that they also targeted affirmative action for eradication in another state.


  • Name: Jules
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 12:28 PM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    Touching article. As heartbreaking as the results of Prop 8 was, sometimes progress entails taking one step back and two steps forward. I'm happy Barack was elected and mentioned our community in his victory speech. Now its time for all of us to get up and fight even harder. It took decades for the civil rights movement to get to this point of electing Barack. We must not lose sight of the fact that we the glbt community have come so far so fast these past couple of years. Lets not give up. Yes We Can!!!


  • Name: james
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 11:39 AM
    Hometown: tampa

    Comment:

    good job california i say burn the place down.... actually why are we as a people not following martin luther kings example of civil disobedience and start fighting for our rights. i dont live in california but i wish i could be there to help you guys any way i could. if any orginizations out there are going to keep up these protest let the rest of us know , get the word out so we can support you any way we can. i live in florida and the christians here pushed through our ban. i fully expected it and wasnt even fazed by it as i know what a redneck baptist run state this is but you guys are a good example and i was proud to see these protest on tv.


  • Name: Ray
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 10:12 AM
    Hometown: Atlanta

    Comment:

    My only question during this whole debacle is: How? How can a person look at a group of people, and say "What you do has no impact on my life, my family, my job, or anything about me - but simply because it's something I'd never do and find personally distasteful, I'm going to deny you the right and ability to do it too." How can someone, or even a group of people, be so cruel and petty? Even if it's under some basis of "moral superiority", how can they muster the audacity to enact a law like that? When I heard that Prop. 8 was passed, I cried because it's petty stuff like this that makes me lose a little more faith in my fellow man.


  • Name: Dan Pytko
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 8:31 AM
    Hometown: Pittsfield, Mass

    Comment:

    First taking away the rights of a minority - then writing that perversity into the State's Consitution is something that hasn't been seen since the rise of facism in pre WWII Germany.


  • Name: matt Wilcox
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 3:46 AM
    Hometown: Los Angeles

    Comment:

    someone get the video of the guy who was wrongly beaten down on hollywood and highland street. The Police Officer in front of him was instigating and grabbing at the crowd and trying to pull them into the sidewalk. Someone has to have footage of this.... Please come forward with it on you tube so it isnt compromised. thank you.


  • Name: london falls
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 3:38 AM
    Hometown: earth

    Comment:

    there is some inaccurate information here being that i'm not a no on 8 volunteer i started walking cause i had to move and when i looked back there was a sea of people behind me there wasnt a no on 8 person urging us to do anything I and the two guys that started with me moved in the direction that pulled us, thats the inside truest take we wanted to be fully present


  • Name: CJ
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 3:11 AM
    Hometown: L.A.

    Comment:

    It's not looking good, but let's not give up hope yet. When I got to the polls, I found my registered address was out of date, despite having updated it months ago. They told me I could cast a provisional ballot, but for this very reason I chose instead to drive 45 minutes to my old precinct to cast a normal ballot. I knew this was too important to risk my vote not being counted. As a side note, I've never been particularly into 'the community,' but the rallies here in L.A. tonight made me feel more proud than any pride parade ever will. In 2000 the margin of defeat was 22%, eight years later it's only 4%. Change is coming.


  • Name: Ray
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 3:05 AM
    Hometown: North Hollywood

    Comment:

    It really was one of the most amazing things i was ever part of!!! And to clear the story of the man beaten.. He did not jump on top of a cop car.. that was another guy who they just told to get down and did nothing about it. The guy they beat was innocent and it was extremely disgusting!!!! This was a peaceful rally. People are just frustrated and angry! Prop 8 was not fair!


  • Name: Elizabeth
    Date posted: 2008-11-06 2:15 AM
    Hometown: Citrus Heights

    Comment:

    A peaceful rally was also held at the State Capitol in Sacramento. Unfortunately there were many "Yes on 8" people present as well, waving signs and yelling, trying to incite reaction from those of us who just want equal rights. As far as I know, there was no violence and no arrests, but I couldn't stay until it was over, so someone may have been pushed to the breaking point and yelled back. There were cops all around the capitol, appearing to be more worried about us gay people getting out of hand rather than being concerned about the haters hating.


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