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Exploring Marsden
Rising star James Marsden talks about skating with drag queens, his X-Men 3 hopes, and giving his all as a sexually conflicted groom-to-be in Heights
Rising star James Marsden talks about skating with drag queens, his X-Men 3 hopes, and giving his all as a sexually conflicted groom-to-be in Heights
Hensley wrote Screening Party (Alyson Books) and cowrote the film Testosterone.
James Marsden is
holding on to a few secrets about his new film
Heights: "I don't want to ruin the plot
for people." But he's up-front about the
gay thing. "Sometimes I'll read
something where a straight actor [playing gay] will get
defensive and go, 'No, no, no, it's
acting. I'm straight and I want everyone to know
I'm straight,' " explains
the Oklahoma-born actor, who's best known for
portraying the visor-wearing Cyclops in the smash
X-Men films. "It's like, 'Come
on, guys. Stop being pussies. Now you sound like
you're not so secure with your sexuality. Now
you sound like you're hiding something.' "
Heights is all about one of those guys who's
hiding something. In this ensemble drama produced by
Merchant Ivory and directed by first-timer Chris
Terrio, Marsden plays Jonathan, a dashing and
successful Manhattan attorney who's about to marry
his live-in girlfriend, Isabel
(Seabiscuit's Elizabeth Banks). What
Isabel doesn't know is that Jonathan has a past love
affair with one man and is hot and heavy with another
even as they plan for their wedding.
Costarring Glenn Close and Jesse Bradford,
it's a smart, fresh look at an age-old
dilemma--the perfect date flick for gay men and their
ex-girlfriends. Assuming they're still speaking.
And Marsden, coming off his nervy turn as a gay
lothario accused of giving Scott Speedman HIV in the
new-to-DVD indie The 24th Day, hits all the right
notes as Jonathan. "I loved the tone of the
script," says the actor, who also recently
appeared in the hit tearjerker The Notebook.
"I thought it really captured modern-day living in
Manhattan and how nuanced relationships can be."
Tomorrow, Marsden--along with his wife of
five years, Lisa, and their 4-year-old son,
Jack--jets off to Australia to shoot a role in
X-Men director Bryan Singer's highly
anticipated Superman Returns. But today,
he's in a New York state of mind.
"There's nothing like shooting
a movie there," he says. "You feel
like you're at the center of the universe."
In
Heights
your character's secret life is revealed
when his photographer ex comes to town with a sexy
exhibition of past lovers. Does that mean that there are
nude shots of you we should look for on eBay?
[Laughs] No. Let me clarify. In one shot
you see me from the waist up with my arm behind my
head, and then on the opposite page is a full-fledged
nude. That's not me. Although I should tell
people it is, because the guy is gifted.
The movie really nailed New York's sort of artsy
intelligentsia theater-world culture. Have you had much
experience in that world?
Not at all. I had to get coached a bit on the Manhattan
lifestyle. I thought I'd gotten rid of my
Oklahoma accent completely, but the director, Chris
Terrio, would go, "You're holding on to that
r a little too long."
[Spoilers follow. --Ed.]
For some gay men in Jonathan's situation, getting
out of that last serious relationship with a woman is a
lifesaving escape. It's like an enormous
weight has been lifted.
For some people, it is like that. But for others, maybe
it's not so black-and-white. That's what
I chose to believe about Jonathan. I believe that he
absolutely loves Isabel and that they probably have good
sex, but there's an innate part of him
that's attracted to men. That, to me, was more
layered and interesting than Jonathan just dealing with
having to tell her he's gay and then
"Ah!" he's set free. It's more
complex than that. There are so many variables, I
believe, that affect one's sexuality. Was it
Gore Vidal who said 'For everyone, there's a
[different] degree of sexuality'? I respond to that.
I think that that's true. For me, anyway.
Do you think if Isabel had forgiven Jonathan, he'd
have stayed with her?
Possibly. At one point he says, "It's you
I want. Let's forget about this and move
on." I believe this is Jonathan not being strong
enough to deal with it.
But instead Isabel has a great line--
"I don't care about what you want
anymore." She's been dealing with what
everyone else wants instead of listening to what she wants,
and she finally stands up for herself.
I appreciated how, without being sappy,
Heights gave Isabel's heartbreak its due.
I agree. It felt real, like a real relationship. I can
imagine how a woman in that situation would feel
destroyed and very insecure about their own sexuality
because "he chose a man over me." I have a
friend who just turned 40, and he hadn't told
his mother he's gay until recently. I asked him
why, and he said, "It's kind of an unspoken
truth. I feel like if I tell her, it'll just
destroy her." Though it's different with a
mother-son relationship [than a romantic relationship],
I'd imagine most women in either situation
would think they did something wrong--because
the person is completely rejecting their gender.
Tell me about filming the scene on the rooftop
where Isabel catches Jonathan kissing another man.
Before we had this kiss scene, the other actor [Jesse
Bradford] and I had a talk and said, "The worst
thing we could do is to do it 50%, so let's
just fucking do it and be in the moment and be these
guys." Did I get off on it? No, but you know
what? If I kiss a girl in a movie, I don't
really get off on that either, because you've got
10,000 people and a camera pointing at you and
you're worried about what your next line is.
Out singer Rufus Wainwright appears in
Heights as another of your photographer
ex's conquests. Did you get to interact
with him?
No, and it really made me sad, because while we were
shooting this movie, his music was all I listened to.
[Director] Chris [Terrio] promises me for the premiere
we'll get together and maybe do a duet or something.
You showed that you have a fine singing voice on
Ally McBeal. Ever thought of pulling a Hugh
Jackman and doing a Broadway musical?
Actually, Hugh was interested in me being his boyfriend
in The Boy From Oz. I recently saw that he's
got this deal at Disney to produce three movie
musicals, so I e-mailed him and said, "I see
you're doing some musicals." He replied,
"Yeah, now our career objective is to get you
into one."
You were born and raised in Oklahoma. What do the
folks back home think of you playing gay roles?
I was a little concerned about how my grandparents or my
mother would react, knowing I had to kiss a guy or
whatever, but they get it. They realize that
you're an actor and you play different characters.
Actually, my father was with me when Heights
premiered at Sundance, and he was so cool about it.
When you first moved to L.A., did you experience
culture shock?
Some. When I first moved to Hollywood, a good friend
who's gay helped me get acclimated. We went to
this event at a roller rink and there were
cross-dressers running around and, to be honest, I was a
little uncomfortable, because it was something I had
never seen before. And my friend said, "I just
like to think of it as different colors." He kind of
set that idea in my head. One thing I pride myself in is,
I'm really good at seeing everything from other
people's eyes. I don't expect you to be
like me, and hopefully you don't expect me to be like
you.
Yeah, hopefully.
When you hear about these homophobic people who feel so
threatened by somebody's sexuality, to the
degree that our president wants to amend the
Constitution? I mean, are you kidding me? Are you fucking
kidding me? Are you really so threatened by
somebody's sexuality? It seems ludicrous to me.
We should all take a deep breath and relax and just let
everybody do their thing
Being an attractive guy in show business, I'm
sure you've had your share of guys hitting on
you. Is it different than when women do it?
Guys can be more aggressive, but it hasn't really
been a problem.
Do gay roles like the ones you played in Heights
and The 24th Day offer you a chance to show
your stuff in a way that big-budget movies don't?
Certainly. If you're serious about this business
and want to have a long career, you have to be open
and willing to explore other personalities.
I've done some really cool big action movies, and
they're great to be a part of, because the
whole world sees them. On the other hand, it creates
an appetite to, you know, put on a new suit.
And lose the Cyclops mask and show your eyes for a change.
Playing Cyclops was a challenge in a whole different
way. Then I was lucky enough to finish X2 and
go right to something totally different with The Notebook.
Which can make me cry just thinking about it.
I almost cry every time I see it. [Laughs] Some
people think it's hokey, but I think
it's nice to see those types of classic love stories
still being made.
You'll soon be seen in The Alibi, which
stars your X-Men cohort Rebecca Romijn. I assume
she's not naked and blue in this movie
Yes, it's great to work with her again and not
have her blue. Although it's always good to
have her naked. [The Alibi is] a fun movie.
Steve Coogan plays a guy who creates a very elaborate
alibi service for people who want to cheat on their
boyfriends, girlfriends, husbands, wives, and whatnot.
I play this rich kid who's a pompous, arrogant
jerk, and when things start to get bad, all his true
wimpiness gets exposed. Then I've got 10th and Wolf with Giovanni Ribisi and Val Kilmer and
Dennis Hopper. It's about these kids whose fathers
were some of the last of the Philadelphia mob, and
they have to choose whether to carry on that legacy.
And then Superman Returns.
I'm playing Lois Lane's fiance.
It's basically The Notebook all over again.
[Laughs] No, actually it's very different.
It's very, very cool.
Will you play Cyclops in X-Men 3?
It's very complicated. I want nothing more than
to be a part of X-Men 3, especially since
they're probably going into the Dark Phoenix
saga, which would include my character a lot, but the
schedule might conflict. I hope it all works out. I told
them I'd do it for free.
What's your favorite X collectible?
You should ask my son. He plays with my action figure.
He tortures it and throws it onto the roof of my
house, into the pool.
Do you see much of an overlap of X-Men and 24th
Day fans?
It's kind of two different markets. Although I
was in the Phoenix airport and the guy making my drink
at Starbucks goes, "James Marsden,
right?" I go, "Yeah." And he goes,
"X-Men, 24th Day." I went,
"That's eclectic grouping," and
he goes, "Well, I could have gone with Sugar
& Spice and Disturbing Behavior."
I was like, "Jesus, OK."
I have a funny feeling that guy might someday read
this interview.
[Laughs] He knew all my movies. He just
wanted to hit the extremes.
Heights (Yahoo Movies)
The Alibi(imdb.com)
Superman Returns (imdb.com)
X-Men (tlavideo)
X2 (tlavideo)
The Notebook (tlavideo)
Screening Party (Alyson Books)
Testosterone (tlavideo)
24th Day (tlavideo)
Campfire Tales (tlavideo)
Disturbing Behavior (tlavideo)
Gossip (tlavideo)
Interstate 60 (tlavideo)
Sugar & Spice
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