For Elvira,
a.k.a. Cassandra Peterson, the time has come to pass the
torch...er, wig. With over 25 years behind her as the
big-busted, pun-busting, iconic Mistress of the Dark
(born on a horror flick TV program in early '80s
Los Angeles called Elvira's Movie Macabre),
Peterson auditions potential proteges on the
Fox Reality Channel series.
Assisting
Peterson in her campy rigors is a pair of openly queer
longtime professional Elvira impersonators --
Atlanta-raised Patterson Lundquist and Christian
Greenia of Newport Beach, Calif. As evident in the first
episode, a thoroughly zany round of freaks-and-goths-filled
auditions in Long Beach, Calif., aboard The Queen
Mary ship, their glue-on claws and catty quips
aren't directed just toward the contestants --
they also trade barbs and attitude with each other. In
fact, the duo got a little All About Eve on us
during a spirited Q&A about the show:
So what should we know first and foremost about
The Search for the Next Elvira?PL: Well, the biggest misconception is Elvira
is picking her replacement. It's not a replacement --
you can't replace her. What she is getting is
an understudy. Elvira gets invited to appear
everywhere, and some don't pay what Elvira's
worth. Now with The Next Elvira she can send out her
little protege, her wannabe, to be in her
stead, but not low-rent in the least bit. The goal is
for the next Elvira to be a living, breathing, talking
embodiment of Elvira -- it's just not Cassandra in the
costume.
CG: I have a Halloween store in Orange County,
and every year I beg her to do an autograph signing, and she
says, "There's no way I'm going to a goddamned
Halloween store!"
So she's kind of a character franchise, like Ronald
McDonald or Santa Claus.CG: Kinda. Elvira is such a character, and
it's like anybody can be Elvira if they do it right.
At this point, 25 years later, she's such a
character that Cassandra will dress up and someone
will ask, "Are you the real one?" Sometimes they
didn't give a shit if I was the real Elvira or
not.
How do you two compare and contrast with each other
on the show?CG: I'm supposed to be the voice that
represents all the people out there who don't think
it's possible to find another Elvira.
I'm the ultracritical one, and boy, does that show. I
swear to God, when Elvira and Patterson are going
'She's OK,' I'm going,
'No, it sucks, it sucks, you know it sucks, no, no
way.'
That criticism extended to Patterson as well, I noticed.CG: Oh, God, yeah. It's more of me telling
him to shut the fuck up. He'll get on his soapbox
about one thing, and it'll usually be about the
most ridiculous nonissue. You go, "Shut up,
it's so non-important." He just annoys me. He could
say the moon is blue and it would annoy me at this
point because it's Patterson. Even if he
wasn't an Elvira drag queen -- personality conflict
all the way. He tries really hard to be nice, but I
hate to see people try so hard.
Sounds like three's a crowd when it comes to Elviras!PL: Contrary to what Chris may tell you, when
I'm not on set I'm rarely a chatty person, and
after having gone through high school being made fun
of and beat down constantly, I am not the type of
person who makes fun or pokes the ribs or jabs or is catty
toward other people. But on the set he was just a
nasty bitch every chance he got. You know the line
you're not supposed to cross? Well, Christian just
does a belly flop right over it, and there are moments when
you're just like, "Oh, my God, Christian, just
be quiet!"
Did Cassandra attempt to do peacemaking, or was she
tickled by the friction?CG: She would roll her eyes and say, 'Here we
go!' I think she secretly loves it. She knows how
much I don't care for that guy. I didn't
meet him face-to-face until first day of shooting on
The Queen Mary. I had seen him on the
Internet over the past six or seven years. I had a Web site
featuring me as Elvira, and he e-mailed me with a
hissy fit and all this queeny drama. So to be totally
honest, I think they brought him on because I said
I'll take anybody [as co-judge] but
Patterson...they thought it would be hysterical
to have that little extra conflict. When the producers told
me I said, "You guys suck."
PL: The only time he was polite was off camera,
and that was like a refreshing break from the bitch storm.
What something special does a male Elvira bring to
the equation?CG: I have always said it takes a man to make a
woman look like a woman. Guys, especially gay men and drag
queens, seem to have the knack for it. I don't
know why they do it better, but a drag queen just has
a better sense of it -- especially Elvira, who is just a
drag queen anyway. The girls didn't really get it,
the attitude; the guy was the only one who got it
spot-on.
So how did the male contestants fare?PL: Some looked pretty good. And some
that...wow, another planet I think.
CG: Initially, only one, actually, was good
enough to be on the show. A couple that showed up were
tragic! I was almost embarrassed for them! They gave
it the old college try, an A for effort. But even the
guy who made it on the show looked like Tracy
Turnblad's father in Elvira drag. Pretty scary!
Were any of the female contestants hot?CG: Sure. They all sort of look like they
stepped out of a pinup calendar. One of the girls I think
was a Suicide Girl. Nice dimensions -- I
don't think they will disappoint.
There was also quite a bit of ethnic diversity
among the contestants.PL: Cassandra jokes about having the
multicultural Elviras. An African-American and Latina and
Asian Elvira. One was Romanian and she spoke Italian.
Elvira actually speaks a multitude of language, but
her most prolific is Italian because she lived there
in the 1970s. She reads Latin too!
For the sake of diversity, would you like to see
her even pursue a differently abled or Down syndrome Elvira?CG: I would slap the tits right off her chest
if she had a Down syndrome Elvira because there is just
nothing funny about that for me at all. That would be
awful. I think the furthest that I would be cool with
would be a midget Elvira. That would be pretty funny.
You both have made some high-profile appearances as
Elvira impersonators over the years. Any memorable
experiences to share, perhaps as cautionary tales
for the show's winner?CG: I went to Greensboro, N.C., under the
impression I was being hired as an Elvira look-alike for a
haunted house. And I got there, and the woman who
hired me was the town councilwoman and had told
everybody in town the real Elvira was coming. And I think
she did that to win points because she was up for
election. I got to the airport, and she tells me if I
want my plane ticket home I had better be the real
Elvira if anyone asks! The limousine came, the mayor came
with the key to the city, I did a radio show. It was
un-fucking-believable. I sat there signing things
people had for years, ruining everybody's
memorabilia with my signature, which fortunately looks like
the real Elvira's.
PL: I had a gig at the Hollywood Wax Museum and
broke my heel on Hollywood Boulevard. Luckily, it was my
left shoe, which was underneath the dress, so I kind
of had to do an Elvira tent stretch for like an hour
and a half, and next thing I know I'm getting
mobbed for photos. There was this one guy who was like, "I
want a picture with Elvira," and there was this girl
who was like, "I want a picture next to her boobs,"
and then they started arguing. It was ridiculous. I
was like, OK, I'm not getting paid enough
for this. Another one was going down a flight of
steps at a private venue; it was a very long staircase
and very narrow. I caught and broke my heel and flew
down the staircase with my legs spread.