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Former Ex-gay Leader: There's No Such Thing as Ex-gay

Former Ex-gay Leader: There's No Such Thing as Ex-gay

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The former proponent of ex-gay gospel, John Smid, visited Chris Matthews on Hardball on Tuesday night to tell his story.

Smid chose to remain married to a woman but concedes he's attracted to men predominately. He is now speaking out, saying he's realized being gay is "intrinsic" and that he's not met anyone whose changed orientations, even while part of Exodus International.

Watch the complete interview.

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